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Another Question for Troubled Faith
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studio
2011-08-22 06:03:03 UTC
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What ever happened to Mick Fleck?

I know Mark Travis is gone gone gone.
But did you ever interact with Mick?
geraldkrug
2011-08-22 09:21:11 UTC
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Is this spam or am I bored with busy body bullshitters.
You decide...

Now in the all system files page I added a form to create a print out.
16 images per printed paper page.
http://boughtupcom.freeservers.com/cgi/CRcode/AllFiles.pl
matt2442
2011-08-22 16:53:01 UTC
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What ever happened to Mick Fleck?
I know Mark Travis is gone gone gone.
But did you ever interact with Mick?
Matt2442:
I wonder if one or both of them are working for Joe Cortes?
studio
2011-08-23 02:00:30 UTC
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Post by matt2442
Post by studio
What ever happened to Mick Fleck?
I know Mark Travis is gone gone gone.
But did you ever interact with Mick?
I wonder if one or both of them are working for Joe Cortes?
Mick Fleck and Joe Cortes? Hmmmm.
geraldkrug
2011-08-23 03:12:12 UTC
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Joe courts mike fleck, double Hmmmmmm
matt2442
2011-08-23 16:18:33 UTC
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Post by matt2442
I wonder if one or both of them are working for Joe Cortes?
Mick Fleck and Joe Cortes? Hmmmm.
Matt2442:
I don't know. I'm just wondering. I'm really hoping that they both
just got the hell away from anything that resembles Gene Scott's
ministry.
T***@breakthru.com
2011-08-23 23:56:26 UTC
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Post by matt2442
Post by studio
Post by matt2442
I wonder if one or both of them are working for Joe Cortes?
Mick Fleck and Joe Cortes? Hmmmm.
I don't know. I'm just wondering. I'm really hoping that they both
just got the hell away from anything that resembles Gene Scott's
ministry.
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year. I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in. I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be. Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down? He is still attending an occasional
service, I think. Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in. Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s. One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person. I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her. I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
rpbc
2011-08-24 03:03:13 UTC
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Post by T***@breakthru.com
Post by matt2442
Post by studio
Post by matt2442
I wonder if one or both of them are working for Joe Cortes?
Mick Fleck and Joe Cortes? Hmmmm.
I don't know. I'm just wondering. I'm really hoping that they both
just got the hell away from anything that resembles Gene Scott's
ministry.
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
rpbc:
I'd like Christine to read what you just wrote.
studio
2011-08-24 05:46:34 UTC
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Post by T***@breakthru.com
Post by matt2442
Post by studio
Post by matt2442
I wonder if one or both of them are working for Joe Cortes?
Mick Fleck and Joe Cortes? Hmmmm.
I don't know. I'm just wondering. I'm really hoping that they both
just got the hell away from anything that resembles Gene Scott's
ministry.
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
Well Honey bunches of Oats, I don't think there was ever a "good time"
to enter into this fabrication of a church procedural. The time was
right for you to get out, but never a good entrance.....never.

Mick Fleck was not inept. Not for one second. You know, he might have
had some self esteem problems......er, issues for sure, but Gene Scott
twisted that with Mick and drilled (indoctrinated) into his head that
he
had big ego problems. which was the exact opposite of, at least what
I saw the real Mick was about.

Mick's mild mannered ways and his fatigue were his calling card
around there. I'm sure he had his reasons for leaving just like
the rest of us. He might even be reading here. Hey Mick.
Weatherman
2011-08-24 14:07:51 UTC
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Post by T***@breakthru.com
Post by matt2442
Post by studio
Post by matt2442
I wonder if one or both of them are working for Joe Cortes?
Mick Fleck and Joe Cortes? Hmmmm.
I don't know. I'm just wondering. I'm really hoping that they both
just got the hell away from anything that resembles Gene Scott's
ministry.
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
Well Honey bunches of Oats, I don't think there was ever a "good time"
to enter into this fabrication of a church procedural. The time was
right for you to get out, but never a good entrance.....never.
Mick Fleck was not inept. Not for one second. You know, he might have
had some self esteem problems......er, issues for sure, but Gene Scott
twisted that with Mick and drilled (indoctrinated) into his head that
he
had big ego problems. which was the exact opposite of, at least what
I saw the real Mick was about.
Mick's mild mannered ways and his fatigue were his calling card
around there.  I'm sure he had his reasons for leaving just like
the rest of us. He might even be reading here. Hey Mick.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Wow another ego problem. I hate to use the dammed overused but Gene
may have just protested WAY to much about the ego. Fuching excuse for
everything.
matt2442
2011-08-25 17:14:54 UTC
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Mick Fleck was not inept. Not for one second. You know, he might have
had some self esteem problems......er, issues for sure, but Gene Scott
twisted that with Mick and drilled (indoctrinated) into his head that
he had big ego problems. which was the exact opposite of, at least what
I saw the real Mick was about.
Matt2442:
I think self esteem issue were common around there and Scott twisted
it to his advantage. I sure had them, but I never went on staff. Mick
Fleck having a big ego? I didn't get to know him, but from what I
recall he hardly seemed to be an egomaniac
Post by studio
Mick's mild mannered ways and his fatigue were his calling card
around there.  I'm sure he had his reasons for leaving just like
the rest of us. He might even be reading here. Hey Mick.
Matt2442:
I'm glad he is out of there. I just hope that he is happier and doing
well outside of planet Scott.
studio
2011-08-24 05:55:19 UTC
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Post by T***@breakthru.com
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
.
studio:

Think on this, Christine was one of us.
Stuck in a cultic mindframe, she saw the
transition from church study and respect
to lavish lifestyle changes and irreverent
display of spiritual matters.

Just because Gene Scott lost his mind
doesn't mean she did. The story about her
dancing on the hood of someone's car and
damaging it........reminds me of a
Tom Cruise moment for sure.

Cult behavior is never excused but from
the perspective of another been through the
same mind games, you can really relate.

Compassion on those that have been down that road.
The spirit comes across when confronted
with a mirror image of what could have been you!
Emmett
2011-08-24 16:30:43 UTC
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Post by T***@breakthru.com
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
.
Think on this, Christine was one of us.
Stuck in a cultic mindframe, she saw the
transition from church study and respect
to lavish lifestyle changes and irreverent
display of spiritual matters.
Just because Gene Scott lost his mind
doesn't mean she did. The story about her
dancing on the hood of someone's car and
damaging it........reminds me of a
Tom Cruise moment for sure.
Cult behavior is never excused but from
the perspective of another been through the
same mind games, you can really relate.
Compassion on those that have been down that road.
The spirit comes across when confronted
with a mirror image of what could have been you!
Emmett writes:
She was in bed with Dr. jean for 15 - 20 years??? Like she didn't
know what was going on and what the score was. She was living
in the lap of luxury on the backs of all the scotites just like Dr.
jean
and enjoying every minute of it. She wasn't some great person, she
was a scumbag just like Dr. jean. Can you even imagine the
conversations between them about how Dr. jean was screwing all
the people and them having a good laugh about it??
Maybe we can start referring to her as St. Christine.
studio
2011-08-24 17:12:49 UTC
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Post by T***@breakthru.com
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
.
Think on this, Christine was one of us.
Stuck in a cultic mindframe, she saw the
transition from church study and respect
to lavish lifestyle changes and irreverent
display of spiritual matters.
Just because Gene Scott lost his mind
doesn't mean she did. The story about her
dancing on the hood of someone's car and
damaging it........reminds me of a
Tom Cruise moment for sure.
Cult behavior is never excused but from
the perspective of another been through the
same mind games, you can really relate.
Compassion on those that have been down that road.
The spirit comes across when confronted
with a mirror image of what could have been you!
She was in bed with Dr. jean for 15 - 20 years??? Like she didn't
know what was going on and what the score was. She was living
in the lap of luxury on the backs of all the scotites just like Dr.
jean
and enjoying every minute of it. She wasn't some great person, she
was a scumbag just like Dr. jean. Can you even imagine the
conversations between them about how Dr. jean was screwing all
the people and them having a good laugh about it??
Maybe we can start referring to her as St. Christine.
I don't think you know the whole story to make that observation.

Let's see, Gene Scott chose Melissa based on what he wanted if
Melissa was Christine. Christine had a real respect for Gene Scott
when she first started working for him as his assistant. As time went
on
you can figure out the paper trail, he used money and things to buy
her
admiration and loyalty.

Sure it got out of control, what do you expect from that madness?
But at some point she woke up..........and escaped. Good for her.
Emmett
2011-08-24 21:15:07 UTC
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Post by Emmett
Post by studio
Post by T***@breakthru.com
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
.
Think on this, Christine was one of us.
Stuck in a cultic mindframe, she saw the
transition from church study and respect
to lavish lifestyle changes and irreverent
display of spiritual matters.
Just because Gene Scott lost his mind
doesn't mean she did. The story about her
dancing on the hood of someone's car and
damaging it........reminds me of a
Tom Cruise moment for sure.
Cult behavior is never excused but from
the perspective of another been through the
same mind games, you can really relate.
Compassion on those that have been down that road.
The spirit comes across when confronted
with a mirror image of what could have been you!
She was in bed with Dr. jean for 15 - 20 years??? Like she didn't
know what was going on and what the score was. She was living
in the lap of luxury on the backs of all the scotites just like Dr.
jean
and enjoying every minute of it. She wasn't some great person, she
was a scumbag just like Dr. jean. Can you even imagine the
conversations between them about how Dr. jean was screwing all
the people and them having a good laugh about it??
Maybe we can start referring to her as St. Christine.
I don't think you know the whole story to make that observation.
Let's see, Gene Scott chose Melissa based on what he wanted if
Melissa was Christine. Christine had a real respect for Gene Scott
when she first started working for him as his assistant. As time went
on
you can figure out the paper trail, he used money and things to buy
her
admiration and loyalty.
Sure it got out of control, what do you expect from that madness?
But at some point she woke up..........and escaped. Good for her.
Emmett writes:
It appears she woke up and escaped with a life time income from
Dr. jean in exchange for not suing for half of the church.
Smart, yes, honorable, I don't think so. If she was as smart as
a lot here seem to think then she had a plan from the beginning
and carried it out and made out like a bandit. Living with and
supporting Dr. jean for 15 years or so does not make her
a very honorable person. Especially seeing people living in
their cars and then enjoying $500.00 dinners and the lap of luxury
with Dr. jean while Dr. jean abused the very followers that
made it all possible. That to me is sick. Like you said " I don't
know the whole story but what I can see, it is just plain sick
on both their parts.
studio
2011-08-24 23:08:11 UTC
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Post by T***@breakthru.com
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
.
Think on this, Christine was one of us.
Stuck in a cultic mindframe, she saw the
transition from church study and respect
to lavish lifestyle changes and irreverent
display of spiritual matters.
Just because Gene Scott lost his mind
doesn't mean she did. The story about her
dancing on the hood of someone's car and
damaging it........reminds me of a
Tom Cruise moment for sure.
Cult behavior is never excused but from
the perspective of another been through the
same mind games, you can really relate.
Compassion on those that have been down that road.
The spirit comes across when confronted
with a mirror image of what could have been you!
She was in bed with Dr. jean for 15 - 20 years??? Like she didn't
know what was going on and what the score was. She was living
in the lap of luxury on the backs of all the scotites just like Dr.
jean
and enjoying every minute of it. She wasn't some great person, she
was a scumbag just like Dr. jean. Can you even imagine the
conversations between them about how Dr. jean was screwing all
the people and them having a good laugh about it??
Maybe we can start referring to her as St. Christine.
I don't think you know the whole story to make that observation.
Let's see, Gene Scott chose Melissa based on what he wanted if
Melissa was Christine. Christine had a real respect for Gene Scott
when she first started working for him as his assistant. As time went
on
you can figure out the paper trail, he used money and things to buy
her
admiration and loyalty.
Sure it got out of control, what do you expect from that madness?
But at some point she woke up..........and escaped. Good for her.
It appears she woke up and escaped with a life time income from
Dr. jean in exchange for not suing for half of the church.
Smart, yes, honorable, I don't think so. If she was as smart as
a lot here seem to think then she had a plan from the beginning
and carried it out and made out like a bandit. Living with and
supporting Dr. jean for 15 years or so does not make her
a very honorable person. Especially seeing people living in
their cars and then enjoying $500.00 dinners and the lap of luxury
with Dr. jean while Dr. jean abused the very followers that
made it all possible. That to me is sick. Like you said " I don't
know the whole story but what I can see, it is just plain sick
on both their parts.
studio:

I agree on the sickness part. To say it's excusable also would put
a monkey wrench on why we are all still here on AFGS.
To correct the wrongs that were done in the name of God,
in the name of Gene Scott, forever to be reckoned with.

To say Christine is a "saint" is beside the point. Gene Scott
found a girl at the playboy mansion, a single mom trying
to make ends meet.........once again, he threw money at
the situation and embraced it, then manipulated it. Manipulated
her and compromised her sensibility. Money seems to
do that with even the most intelligent of people. A trap.
look what it did to Dr. Jean?
philedelphia
2011-08-25 02:17:16 UTC
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Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
.
Think on this, Christine was one of us.
Stuck in a cultic mindframe, she saw the
transition from church study and respect
to lavish lifestyle changes and irreverent
display of spiritual matters.
Just because Gene Scott lost his mind
doesn't mean she did. The story about her
dancing on the hood of someone's car and
damaging it........reminds me of a
Tom Cruise moment for sure.
Cult behavior is never excused but from
the perspective of another been through the
same mind games, you can really relate.
Compassion on those that have been down that road.
The spirit comes across when confronted
with a mirror image of what could have been you!
She was in bed with Dr. jean for 15 - 20 years??? Like she didn't
know what was going on and what the score was. She was living
in the lap of luxury on the backs of all the scotites just like Dr.
jean
and enjoying every minute of it. She wasn't some great person, she
was a scumbag just like Dr. jean. Can you even imagine the
conversations between them about how Dr. jean was screwing all
the people and them having a good laugh about it??
Maybe we can start referring to her as St. Christine.
I don't think you know the whole story to make that observation.
Let's see, Gene Scott chose Melissa based on what he wanted if
Melissa was Christine. Christine had a real respect for Gene Scott
when she first started working for him as his assistant. As time went
on
you can figure out the paper trail, he used money and things to buy
her
admiration and loyalty.
Sure it got out of control, what do you expect from that madness?
But at some point she woke up..........and escaped. Good for her.
It appears she woke up and escaped with a life time income from
Dr. jean in exchange for not suing for half of the church.
Smart, yes, honorable, I don't think so. If she was as smart as
a lot here seem to think then she had a plan from the beginning
and carried it out and made out like a bandit. Living with and
supporting Dr. jean for 15 years or so does not make her
a very honorable person. Especially seeing people living in
their cars and then enjoying $500.00 dinners and the lap of luxury
with Dr. jean while Dr. jean abused the very followers that
made it all possible. That to me is sick. Like you said " I don't
know the whole story but what I can see, it is just plain sick
on both their parts.
I agree on the sickness part. To say it's excusable also would put
a monkey wrench on why we are all still here on AFGS.
To correct the wrongs that were done in the name of God,
in the name of Gene Scott, forever to be reckoned with.
To say Christine is a "saint" is beside the point. Gene Scott
found a girl at the playboy mansion, a single mom trying
to make ends meet.........once again, he threw money at
the situation and embraced it, then manipulated it. Manipulated
her and compromised her sensibility. Money seems to
do that with even the most intelligent of people. A trap.
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sk
i thought only onlookers say "Dr.Jean" its so onlookerish lol
napa
2011-08-25 02:53:19 UTC
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Post by Emmett
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by studio
Post by T***@breakthru.com
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
.
Think on this, Christine was one of us.
Stuck in a cultic mindframe, she saw the
transition from church study and respect
to lavish lifestyle changes and irreverent
display of spiritual matters.
Just because Gene Scott lost his mind
doesn't mean she did. The story about her
dancing on the hood of someone's car and
damaging it........reminds me of a
Tom Cruise moment for sure.
Cult behavior is never excused but from
the perspective of another been through the
same mind games, you can really relate.
Compassion on those that have been down that road.
The spirit comes across when confronted
with a mirror image of what could have been you!
She was in bed with Dr. jean for 15 - 20 years??? Like she didn't
know what was going on and what the score was. She was living
in the lap of luxury on the backs of all the scotites just like Dr.
jean
and enjoying every minute of it. She wasn't some great person, she
was a scumbag just like Dr. jean. Can you even imagine the
conversations between them about how Dr. jean was screwing all
the people and them having a good laugh about it??
Maybe we can start referring to her as St. Christine.
I don't think you know the whole story to make that observation.
Let's see, Gene Scott chose Melissa based on what he wanted if
Melissa was Christine. Christine had a real respect for Gene Scott
when she first started working for him as his assistant. As time went
on
you can figure out the paper trail, he used money and things to buy
her
admiration and loyalty.
Sure it got out of control, what do you expect from that madness?
But at some point she woke up..........and escaped. Good for her.
It appears she woke up and escaped with a life time income from
Dr. jean in exchange for not suing for half of the church.
Smart, yes, honorable, I don't think so. If she was as smart as
a lot here seem to think then she had a plan from the beginning
and carried it out and made out like a bandit. Living with and
supporting Dr. jean for 15 years or so does not make her
a very honorable person. Especially seeing people living in
their cars and then enjoying $500.00 dinners and the lap of luxury
with Dr. jean while Dr. jean abused the very followers that
made it all possible. That to me is sick. Like you said " I don't
know the whole story but what I can see, it is just plain sick
on both their parts.
I agree on the sickness part. To say it's excusable also would put
a monkey wrench on why we are all still here on AFGS.
To correct the wrongs that were done in the name of God,
in the name of Gene Scott, forever to be reckoned with.
To say Christine is a "saint" is beside the point. Gene Scott
found a girl at the playboy mansion, a single mom trying
to make ends meet.........once again, he threw money at
the situation and embraced it, then manipulated it. Manipulated
her and compromised her sensibility. Money seems to
do that with even the most intelligent of people. A trap.
look what it did to Dr. Jean?
Didn't he do the same with Melissa? Why so hard on her and so soft on
Christine?
studio
2011-08-25 07:23:57 UTC
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Post by napa
Didn't he do the same with Melissa? Why so hard on her and so soft on
Christine?
.
studio:
Christine doesn't think she can preach, that's for starters.
Christine doesn't think she can sing, secondly.
Christine didn't hide her history or past.
Christine was approachable.
Christine knew doc when he was more sane than nuts.
Christine is a beautiful name. selah
Gypsie
2011-08-25 14:20:12 UTC
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Post by studio
Post by napa
Didn't he do the same with Melissa? Why so hard on her and so soft on
Christine?
.
Christine doesn't think she can preach, that's for starters.
Christine doesn't think she can sing, secondly.
Christine didn't hide her history or past.
Christine was approachable.
Christine knew doc when he was more sane than nuts.
Christine is a beautiful name. selah
gypsie: by all accounts, Christine was a lady (despit her past)
napa
2011-08-26 05:10:34 UTC
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Post by studio
Post by napa
Didn't he do the same with Melissa? Why so hard on her and so soft on
Christine?
.
Christine doesn't think she can preach, that's for starters.
Christine doesn't think she can sing, secondly.
Christine didn't hide her history or past.
Christine was approachable.
Christine knew doc when he was more sane than nuts.
Christine is a beautiful name. selah
Melissa can sing. When I was in college the choir director asked me
why I wasn't
in the choir. I told her I couldn't sing. She said everybody can sing.
I sang for her.
She said you can't sing and walked away. I am tone deaf. I rest my
case.

Yes, I believe Melissa is a bit unapproachable.

Christine is a beautiful name? Ok, you got me there.
studio
2011-08-26 05:47:58 UTC
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Post by napa
Post by studio
Post by napa
Didn't he do the same with Melissa? Why so hard on her and so soft on
Christine?
.
Christine doesn't think she can preach, that's for starters.
Christine doesn't think she can sing, secondly.
Christine didn't hide her history or past.
Christine was approachable.
Christine knew doc when he was more sane than nuts.
Christine is a beautiful name. selah
Melissa can sing. When I was in college the choir director asked me
why I wasn't
in the choir. I told her I couldn't sing. She said everybody can sing.
I sang for her.
She said you can't sing and walked away. I am tone deaf. I rest my
case.
Yes, I believe Melissa is a bit unapproachable.
Christine is a beautiful name? Ok, you got me there.
Donna is a beautiful name too.

When I was a little kid, my first crush was on Donna Nuanez.
Then, I had a crush on Deanne Chavez in the 4th grade.
Then it was Kimberly Ryan.
Then it was Sandra.

After that I lost my mind and lost track.

......then there's wifey.........


http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1024&bih=637&q=wifey%27s+world&gbv=2&oq=wifey%27s+world&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=2658l7247l0l7597l13l13l0l8l0l0l229l777l1.3.1l5l0
napa
2011-08-26 06:34:06 UTC
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Post by studio
Post by napa
Post by studio
Post by napa
Didn't he do the same with Melissa? Why so hard on her and so soft on
Christine?
.
Christine doesn't think she can preach, that's for starters.
Christine doesn't think she can sing, secondly.
Christine didn't hide her history or past.
Christine was approachable.
Christine knew doc when he was more sane than nuts.
Christine is a beautiful name. selah
Melissa can sing. When I was in college the choir director asked me
why I wasn't
in the choir. I told her I couldn't sing. She said everybody can sing.
I sang for her.
She said you can't sing and walked away. I am tone deaf. I rest my
case.
Yes, I believe Melissa is a bit unapproachable.
Christine is a beautiful name? Ok, you got me there.
Donna is a beautiful name too.
When I was a little kid, my first crush was on Donna Nuanez.
Then, I had a crush on Deanne Chavez in the 4th grade.
Then it was Kimberly Ryan.
Then it was Sandra.
After that I lost my mind and lost track.
......then there's wifey.........
http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1024&bih=63...
When I was a little kid, my first crush was on Tommy Doherty.
Then, 15 years later it was the love of my life, Sam Kelley.

Women never lose track. Well, most women.
That is not your wifey. *tsk*
philedelphia
2011-08-25 02:14:01 UTC
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Post by Emmett
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by studio
Post by T***@breakthru.com
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
.
Think on this, Christine was one of us.
Stuck in a cultic mindframe, she saw the
transition from church study and respect
to lavish lifestyle changes and irreverent
display of spiritual matters.
Just because Gene Scott lost his mind
doesn't mean she did. The story about her
dancing on the hood of someone's car and
damaging it........reminds me of a
Tom Cruise moment for sure.
Cult behavior is never excused but from
the perspective of another been through the
same mind games, you can really relate.
Compassion on those that have been down that road.
The spirit comes across when confronted
with a mirror image of what could have been you!
She was in bed with Dr. jean for 15 - 20 years??? Like she didn't
know what was going on and what the score was. She was living
in the lap of luxury on the backs of all the scotites just like Dr.
jean
and enjoying every minute of it. She wasn't some great person, she
was a scumbag just like Dr. jean. Can you even imagine the
conversations between them about how Dr. jean was screwing all
the people and them having a good laugh about it??
Maybe we can start referring to her as St. Christine.
I don't think you know the whole story to make that observation.
Let's see, Gene Scott chose Melissa based on what he wanted if
Melissa was Christine. Christine had a real respect for Gene Scott
when she first started working for him as his assistant. As time went
on
you can figure out the paper trail, he used money and things to buy
her
admiration and loyalty.
Sure it got out of control, what do you expect from that madness?
But at some point she woke up..........and escaped. Good for her.
It appears she woke up and escaped with a life time income from
Dr. jean in exchange for not suing for half of the church.
Smart, yes, honorable, I don't think so. If she was as smart as
a lot here seem to think then she had a plan from the beginning
and carried it out and made out like a bandit. Living with and
supporting Dr. jean for 15 years or so does not make her
a very honorable person. Especially seeing people living in
their cars and then enjoying $500.00 dinners and the lap of luxury
with Dr. jean while Dr. jean abused the very followers that
made it all possible. That to me is sick. Like you said " I don't
know the whole story but what I can see, it is just plain sick
on both their parts.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
this hurt
an onlooker gets it right

the only time in two yrs i ever agreed with your reasoning or could
even tolerate it emmett hope its the last.
rpbc
2011-08-25 02:57:47 UTC
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Post by philedelphia
Post by Emmett
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by studio
Post by T***@breakthru.com
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
.
Think on this, Christine was one of us.
Stuck in a cultic mindframe, she saw the
transition from church study and respect
to lavish lifestyle changes and irreverent
display of spiritual matters.
Just because Gene Scott lost his mind
doesn't mean she did. The story about her
dancing on the hood of someone's car and
damaging it........reminds me of a
Tom Cruise moment for sure.
Cult behavior is never excused but from
the perspective of another been through the
same mind games, you can really relate.
Compassion on those that have been down that road.
The spirit comes across when confronted
with a mirror image of what could have been you!
She was in bed with Dr. jean for 15 - 20 years??? Like she didn't
know what was going on and what the score was. She was living
in the lap of luxury on the backs of all the scotites just like Dr.
jean
and enjoying every minute of it. She wasn't some great person, she
was a scumbag just like Dr. jean. Can you even imagine the
conversations between them about how Dr. jean was screwing all
the people and them having a good laugh about it??
Maybe we can start referring to her as St. Christine.
I don't think you know the whole story to make that observation.
Let's see, Gene Scott chose Melissa based on what he wanted if
Melissa was Christine. Christine had a real respect for Gene Scott
when she first started working for him as his assistant. As time went
on
you can figure out the paper trail, he used money and things to buy
her
admiration and loyalty.
Sure it got out of control, what do you expect from that madness?
But at some point she woke up..........and escaped. Good for her.
It appears she woke up and escaped with a life time income from
Dr. jean in exchange for not suing for half of the church.
Smart, yes, honorable, I don't think so. If she was as smart as
a lot here seem to think then she had a plan from the beginning
and carried it out and made out like a bandit. Living with and
supporting Dr. jean for 15 years or so does not make her
a very honorable person. Especially seeing people living in
their cars and then enjoying $500.00 dinners and the lap of luxury
with Dr. jean while Dr. jean abused the very followers that
made it all possible. That to me is sick. Like you said " I don't
know the whole story but what I can see, it is just plain sick
on both their parts.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
this hurt
an onlooker gets it right
the only time in two yrs i ever agreed with your reasoning or could
even tolerate it emmett hope its the last.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
rpbc:
Right now is a time to say and mean... you weren't there and don't
know what you are talking about when it comes to things like this. If
you had any real appreciation for the situation at the very least
you'd hold your tongue a while before engaging your mouth. You were
sucked in too you know and have what are probably painful memories of
berating your mother and those close to you under the direct influence
of Scott's badly stuck crashing cymbals... tinkling brass hard and
bright.... following that noise as though it a directive from God.

Emmett really doesn't know and nor does he look for or care about any
of the nuances. I appreciate Emmett for his totally beside it all
comments but he is not connected with it in terms of real life and
time spent. He was never a Scottie and had Jean figured nearly
totally the first time he saw him. Christine is not Scott. Melissa
is, just not nearly as competent and hardly intelligent by comparison
but, unlike Christine, big difference.... Melissa is the only one who
got it after thirty five years... spiritual union. Christine left and
being her I'd have received half of everything Scott had and, as far
as I'm concerned, she had it coming for the very fact she slept with
Scott those years. You might say... ya, but she did it for money....
well damned, if so she sure as hell earned it. Besides... she did
respect Scott going into it... you could tell it just as one can tell
Melissa was in for the old man to die. I respected Scott going into
it.

Scott didn't/couldn't talk with Christine the way Emmett suggests....
she was under his influence.. he sure did with Melissa though, common
spirit there. With Melissa he could because she was, after thirty
five years, the only one who got it. You can speak horizonally with
someone who gets it.
geraldkrug
2011-08-25 05:52:38 UTC
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When a far younger woman marries an old man you get the
Anna Nicole Smith saga. PMS didn't get it and Anna Nicole Smith didn't
get it either.

On June 23, 2011, the U.S. Supreme Court issued a ruling against the
estate of Anna Nicole Smith, deciding that a bankruptcy court ruling
giving her estate a sum of 475 million was decided incorrectly the 9th
U.S. Circuit Court of Appeal said that a bankruptcy court could not
make a decision on an issue outside of bankruptcy law then she
died...

They both were manipulated by cock for brain old men.
If PMS gets too close to the real estate (Doc legacy) she will be
killed "accidentally" I predict.
The real estate is being the steering voice (watchman), but I took
that over the day I was born.
geraldkrug
2011-08-25 05:56:56 UTC
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And I'm not excusing PMS from the evil manipulator. It takes two to
tango
and the old men were manipulated as well.
philedelphia
2011-08-25 05:59:37 UTC
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Post by rpbc
Post by Emmett
It appears she woke up and escaped with a life time income from
Dr. jean in exchange for not suing for half of the church.
Smart, yes, honorable, I don't think so. If she was as smart as
a lot here seem to think then she had a plan from the beginning
and carried it out and made out like a bandit. Living with and
supporting Dr. jean for 15 years or so does not make her
a very honorable person. Especially seeing people living in
their cars and then enjoying $500.00 dinners and the lap of luxury
with Dr. jean while Dr. jean abused the very followers that
made it all possible. That to me is sick. Like you said " I don't
know the whole story but what I can see, it is just plain sick
on both their parts.- Hide quoted text -
sk
this hurt an onlooker gets it right
the only time in two yrs i ever agreed with your reasoning or could
even tolerate it emmett hope its the last.- Hide quoted text -
Right now is a time to say and mean... you weren't there and don't
know what you are talking about when it comes to things like this.
sk
i agreed with his reasoning and that is what i was talking about makes
sense to me what emmett said :)

why dont you make sure your talking about what i was talking about
befor you accuse what i was talking about with the way you talk about
it

(you jumped to quik calm down boy you got your chance)

 rp if you had any real appreciation

sk
well right there suppose im an ingrate do i need to repent rp? call it
what it is if you aint holding back their shady

rp
for the situation at the very least you'd hold your tongue a while
before engaging your mouth.

sk
nahh you had your chance

now watch this folks cause this is what rp does with his chance

"You were sucked in too you know and have what are probably painful
memories of berating your mother and those close to you under the
direct influence"

sk
and peter was a bad boy yet rose to speak

hmm. "sucked into you know"
no your to general and when considering the "direct nature" of your
words to say the least it, seems to require more specifics maybe some
that relate to yourself rp yes that would be helpful then we'll go
from there

so tell me do you have a mother? i mean if were gonna talk about
mine:)

ill tell ya rp you could not imagin the long distance clarity see any
conflict i had with family related to things i was taught by dr.scott
like being a self reliant student of gods word harkening to the heros
of faith and the psalms to live by or understanding the galation
series the message of giving in the last days and the message of grace
and peace, the life of faith the upward look the breath of eternity
upon our ordinary lives the profound significance of the meaning
within communion the teachings on the prophets and david and paul and
james as a contrast

is all that what you meant by "you know"?

anyway yeah indignation would puff up and i would have to learn to
accept what i couldnt change but i never stopped desiring the
experience of having your spirit regenerated and your mind renewed for
their sakes and that in itself outlived anystrife or misunderstanding
what you presumed to call 'berating"

more of what rp does with his chance

"of Scott's badly stuck crashing cymbals... tinkling brass hard and
bright.... following that noise as though it a directive from God."

sk
always liked that song "gorgia" by ray charles


rp
Post by rpbc
Emmett really doesn't know
sk
made sense to me whats the proof of your pursuasion thging is when
dealing with pursuasion one can only suspend belief so long until
desensitization takes over her final years of liberty and leaving at
threat of half of what amounted to church/doc investment no bs she
aint beyond rebuke unless you prove up tape recordings of her
potecting staff volunteers congregants the worship of god and i dont
recall any of that nah she was just docs pretty presumed innocent


rp
and nor does he look for or care about any of the nuances.   I
appreciate Emmett for his totally beside it all comments but he is not
connected with it in terms of real life and time spent.  He was never
a Scottie and had Jean figured nearly totally the first time he saw
him.  

sk
hes beside it but he had jean figured but he dont care

lol dude nailed it

rp
Christine is not Scott

sk
a woman is no better than the man she chooses to be with now givin the
context whats really going on here was gene scott a shister or a saint
or sick and in need of forgiveness and therefor whats that say about
her.  

rp
Melissa is, just not nearly as competent and hardly intelligent by
comparison but, unlike Christine, big difference.... Melissa is the
only one who got it after thirty five years... spiritual union.

sk
well theres a bunch of who ha about some broad that laughed at you wet
saps as her and doc rode around in the lap of luxury i recall

rp 
Christine left and being her I'd have received half of everything
Scott had and, as far as I'm concerned, she had it coming for the very
fact she slept with Scott those years.

sk
so much for reasonable appeal like this has any intrinsic value worth
leaning on more relative junkie bullshit

rp
 You might say ya, but she did it for money well damned, if so she
sure as hell earned it. Besides, she did respect Scott going into it..

sk
nahh you dont reserve this regard for Gene so it dont apply to her
neither have it your way.


rp
you could tell it just as one can tell Melissa was in for the old man
to die. I respected Scott going into it.Scott didn't/couldn't talk
with Christine the way
Emmett suggests she was under his influence.. he sure did with Melissa
though, common spirit there.  With Melissa he could because she was,
after thirty five years, the only one who got it.  You can speak
horizonally with someone who gets it

sk
with christine i bet it was in the closet and the momey and the stage
and the seemingly sterile order to it all lulled her into going along
dispite the disconnects until she figured it was time to go like the
rest of us but she was in a position of priviledge and this is to be
observed as well ya ask me

with melissa it was out of the box explains her attraction and his
imbalance shes a bottom feeder savin face now while she feeds on the
bottom lol
geraldkrug
2011-08-25 06:08:11 UTC
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But what's so great is that satan is as caught as the lock ness
monster.
We know satan is in PMS. I have the picture, remember the creature in
her
elitist hair throwing she used to do but doesen't do at all any
more...

Yes this one...
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geraldkrug
2011-08-25 06:17:16 UTC
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I say as caught as the lock ness monster because
"You can't handle catching the evil"
Why do you think they feed Bin Ladin to the fish?
That is obviously a deep sea creature in her hair...
follow the humps it has also...serpentine
geraldkrug
2011-08-25 07:01:16 UTC
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Heart - Barracuda (Live Cal Jam '78)



Listen to her sing where she says, "I know I'm starting to know ya,
barracuda"...



Heart - Barracuda
(A.Wilson/N.Wilson/R.Fisher)

We'd like to do a, one I think you remember, this is called
barracuda !

So this ain't the end - I saw you again today
I had to turn my heart away
You smiled like the Sun - kisses for everyone
and tales - it never fails!

You lying so low in the weeds
Bet you gonna ambush me
You'd have me down down down down on my knees
Wouldn't you, Barracuda?

I know you

Back over Time when we were all trying for free
Met up with the porpoise and me
No right no wrong you're selling a Song - a name
a name, whisper game

If the real thing don't do the trick
You better make up something quick
You gonna burn burn burn burn burn it out to the wick
Ew, Barracuda

Oh I know I'm starting to know ya, yeah

"Sell me sell you" the porpoise said
Dive down deep to save my head
You... I think you got the blues too.

All that night and all the next
Swam without looking back
Made for the western pools -silly silly fools!

Oh MY Lord
Barracuda !

If the real thing don't do the trick
You better make up something quick
You gonna burn burn burn burn burn it to the wick
Oh I think I'm starting to know ya, barracuda


Your just a barracuda
barracuda yeah
all right !

Ew Hi,
I know I know
Ew
rpbc
2011-08-25 21:17:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by philedelphia
Post by rpbc
Post by Emmett
It appears she woke up and escaped with a life time income from
Dr. jean in exchange for not suing for half of the church.
Smart, yes, honorable, I don't think so. If she was as smart as
a lot here seem to think then she had a plan from the beginning
and carried it out and made out like a bandit. Living with and
supporting Dr. jean for 15 years or so does not make her
a very honorable person. Especially seeing people living in
their cars and then enjoying $500.00 dinners and the lap of luxury
with Dr. jean while Dr. jean abused the very followers that
made it all possible. That to me is sick. Like you said " I don't
know the whole story but what I can see, it is just plain sick
on both their parts.- Hide quoted text -
sk
this hurt an onlooker gets it right
the only time in two yrs i ever agreed with your reasoning or could
even tolerate it emmett hope its the last.- Hide quoted text -
Right now is a time to say and mean... you weren't there and don't
know what you are talking about when it comes to things like this.
sk
i agreed with his reasoning and that is what i was talking about makes
sense to me what emmett said :)
why dont you make sure your talking about what i was talking about
befor you accuse what i was talking about with the way you talk about
it
 (you jumped to quik calm down boy you got your chance)
 rp if you had any real appreciation
sk
well right there suppose im an ingrate do i need to repent rp? call it
what it is if you aint holding back their shady
rp
for the situation at the very least you'd hold your tongue a while
before engaging your mouth.
sk
nahh you had your chance
now watch this folks cause this is what rp does with his chance
"You were  sucked in too you know and have what are probably painful
memories of berating your mother and those close to you under the
direct influence"
sk
and peter was a bad boy yet rose to speak
hmm. "sucked into you know"
no your to general and when considering the "direct nature" of your
words to say the least it, seems to require more specifics maybe some
that relate to yourself rp yes that would be helpful then we'll go
from there
so tell me do you have a mother? i mean if were gonna talk about
mine:)
ill tell ya rp you could not imagin the long distance clarity see any
conflict i had with family related to things i was taught by dr.scott
like being a self reliant student of gods word harkening to the heros
of faith and the psalms to live by or understanding the galation
series the message of giving in the last days and the message of grace
and peace,  the life of faith the upward look the breath of eternity
upon our ordinary lives the profound significance of the meaning
within communion the teachings on the prophets and david and paul and
james as a contrast
is all that what you meant by "you know"?
anyway yeah indignation would puff up and i would have to learn to
accept what i couldnt change but i never stopped desiring the
experience of having your spirit regenerated and your mind renewed for
their sakes and that in itself outlived anystrife or misunderstanding
what you presumed to call 'berating"
more of what rp does with his chance
"of Scott's badly stuck crashing cymbals... tinkling brass hard and
bright.... following that noise as though it a directive from God."
sk
always liked that song "gorgia" by ray http://youtu.be/s2G_YCsPbV4
rp
Post by rpbc
Emmett really doesn't know
sk
made sense to me whats the proof of your pursuasion thging is when
dealing with pursuasion one can only suspend belief so long until
desensitization takes over her final years of liberty and leaving at
threat of half of what amounted to church/doc investment no bs she
aint beyond rebuke unless you prove up tape recordings of her
potecting staff volunteers congregants the worship of god and i dont
recall any of that nah she was just docs pretty presumed innocent
rp
 and nor does he look for or care about any of the nuances.   I
appreciate Emmett for his totally beside it all comments but he is not
connected with it in terms of real life and time spent.  He was never
a Scottie and had Jean figured nearly totally the first time he saw
him.  
sk
hes beside it but he had jean figured but he dont care
lol dude nailed it
rp
Christine is not Scott
sk
a woman is no better than the man she chooses to be with now givin the
context whats really going on here was gene scott a shister or a saint
or sick and in need of forgiveness and therefor whats that say about
her.  
rp
Melissa is, just not nearly as competent and hardly intelligent by
comparison but, unlike Christine, big difference.... Melissa is the
only one who got it after thirty five years... spiritual union.
sk
well theres a bunch of who ha about some broad that laughed at you wet
saps as her and doc rode around in the lap of luxury i recall
rp 
Christine left and being her I'd have received half of everything
Scott had and, as far as I'm concerned, she had it coming for the very
fact she slept with Scott those years.
sk
so much for reasonable appeal like this has any intrinsic value worth
leaning on more relative junkie bullshit
rp
 You might say ya, but she did it for money well damned, if so she
sure as hell earned it. Besides, she did respect Scott going into it..
sk
nahh you dont reserve this regard for Gene so it dont apply to her
neither have it your way.
rp
you could tell it just as one can tell Melissa was in for the old man
to die. I respected Scott going into it.Scott didn't/couldn't talk
with Christine the way
Emmett suggests she was under his influence.. he sure did with Melissa
though, common spirit there.  With Melissa he could because she was,
after thirty five years, the only one who got it.  You can speak
horizonally with someone who gets it
sk
with christine i bet it was in the closet and the momey and the stage
and the seemingly sterile order to it all lulled her into going along
dispite the disconnects until she figured it was time to go like the
rest of us but she was in a position of priviledge and this is to be
observed as well ya ask me
with melissa it was out of the box explains her attraction and his
imbalance shes a bottom feeder savin face now while she feeds on the
bottom lol- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
rpbc:
The above gibberish is something like Melissa would come up with as a
rebuttal. Yea... it's that idiotic, churlish. You weren't there
and for your assessments that is very important.... might keep you
from dysfunctional attempts at defensive analysis.
philedelphia
2011-08-25 22:03:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by rpbc
Post by philedelphia
Post by rpbc
Post by Emmett
It appears she woke up and escaped with a life time income from
Dr. jean in exchange for not suing for half of the church.
Smart, yes, honorable, I don't think so. If she was as smart as
a lot here seem to think then she had a plan from the beginning
and carried it out and made out like a bandit. Living with and
supporting Dr. jean for 15 years or so does not make her
a very honorable person. Especially seeing people living in
their cars and then enjoying $500.00 dinners and the lap of luxury
with Dr. jean while Dr. jean abused the very followers that
made it all possible. That to me is sick. Like you said " I don't
know the whole story but what I can see, it is just plain sick
on both their parts.- Hide quoted text -
sk
this hurt an onlooker gets it right
the only time in two yrs i ever agreed with your reasoning or could
even tolerate it emmett hope its the last.- Hide quoted text -
Right now is a time to say and mean... you weren't there and don't
know what you are talking about when it comes to things like this.
sk
i agreed with his reasoning and that is what i was talking about makes
sense to me what emmett said :)
why dont you make sure your talking about what i was talking about
befor you accuse what i was talking about with the way you talk about
it
 (you jumped to quik calm down boy you got your chance)
 rp if you had any real appreciation
sk
well right there suppose im an ingrate do i need to repent rp? call it
what it is if you aint holding back their shady
rp
for the situation at the very least you'd hold your tongue a while
before engaging your mouth.
sk
nahh you had your chance
now watch this folks cause this is what rp does with his chance
"You were  sucked in too you know and have what are probably painful
memories of berating your mother and those close to you under the
direct influence"
sk
and peter was a bad boy yet rose to speak
hmm. "sucked into you know"
no your to general and when considering the "direct nature" of your
words to say the least it, seems to require more specifics maybe some
that relate to yourself rp yes that would be helpful then we'll go
from there
so tell me do you have a mother? i mean if were gonna talk about
mine:)
ill tell ya rp you could not imagin the long distance clarity see any
conflict i had with family related to things i was taught by dr.scott
like being a self reliant student of gods word harkening to the heros
of faith and the psalms to live by or understanding the galation
series the message of giving in the last days and the message of grace
and peace,  the life of faith the upward look the breath of eternity
upon our ordinary lives the profound significance of the meaning
within communion the teachings on the prophets and david and paul and
james as a contrast
is all that what you meant by "you know"?
anyway yeah indignation would puff up and i would have to learn to
accept what i couldnt change but i never stopped desiring the
experience of having your spirit regenerated and your mind renewed for
their sakes and that in itself outlived anystrife or misunderstanding
what you presumed to call 'berating"
more of what rp does with his chance
"of Scott's badly stuck crashing cymbals... tinkling brass hard and
bright.... following that noise as though it a directive from God."
sk
always liked that song "gorgia" by ray http://youtu.be/s2G_YCsPbV4
rp
Post by rpbc
Emmett really doesn't know
sk
made sense to me whats the proof of your pursuasion thging is when
dealing with pursuasion one can only suspend belief so long until
desensitization takes over her final years of liberty and leaving at
threat of half of what amounted to church/doc investment no bs she
aint beyond rebuke unless you prove up tape recordings of her
potecting staff volunteers congregants the worship of god and i dont
recall any of that nah she was just docs pretty presumed innocent
rp
 and nor does he look for or care about any of the nuances.   I
appreciate Emmett for his totally beside it all comments but he is not
connected with it in terms of real life and time spent.  He was never
a Scottie and had Jean figured nearly totally the first time he saw
him.  
sk
hes beside it but he had jean figured but he dont care
lol dude nailed it
rp
Christine is not Scott
sk
a woman is no better than the man she chooses to be with now givin the
context whats really going on here was gene scott a shister or a saint
or sick and in need of forgiveness and therefor whats that say about
her.  
rp
Melissa is, just not nearly as competent and hardly intelligent by
comparison but, unlike Christine, big difference.... Melissa is the
only one who got it after thirty five years... spiritual union.
sk
well theres a bunch of who ha about some broad that laughed at you wet
saps as her and doc rode around in the lap of luxury i recall
rp 
Christine left and being her I'd have received half of everything
Scott had and, as far as I'm concerned, she had it coming for the very
fact she slept with Scott those years.
sk
so much for reasonable appeal like this has any intrinsic value worth
leaning on more relative junkie bullshit
rp
 You might say ya, but she did it for money well damned, if so she
sure as hell earned it. Besides, she did respect Scott going into it..
sk
nahh you dont reserve this regard for Gene so it dont apply to her
neither have it your way.
rp
you could tell it just as one can tell Melissa was in for the old man
to die. I respected Scott going into it.Scott didn't/couldn't talk
with Christine the way
Emmett suggests she was under his influence.. he sure did with Melissa
though, common spirit there.  With Melissa he could because she was,
after thirty five years, the only one who got it.  You can speak
horizonally with someone who gets it
sk
with christine i bet it was in the closet and the momey and the stage
and the seemingly sterile order to it all lulled her into going along
dispite the disconnects until she figured it was time to go like the
rest of us but she was in a position of priviledge and this is to be
observed as well ya ask me
with melissa it was out of the box explains her attraction and his
imbalance shes a bottom feeder savin face now while she feeds on the
bottom lol- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The above gibberish is something like Melissa would come up with as a
rebuttal.   Yea... it's that idiotic, churlish.   You weren't there
and for your assessments that is very important.... might keep you
from dysfunctional attempts at defensive analysis.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
your full of shit and its just that simple
philedelphia
2011-08-25 22:15:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by rpbc
Post by philedelphia
Post by rpbc
Post by Emmett
It appears she woke up and escaped with a life time income from
Dr. jean in exchange for not suing for half of the church.
Smart, yes, honorable, I don't think so. If she was as smart as
a lot here seem to think then she had a plan from the beginning
and carried it out and made out like a bandit. Living with and
supporting Dr. jean for 15 years or so does not make her
a very honorable person. Especially seeing people living in
their cars and then enjoying $500.00 dinners and the lap of luxury
with Dr. jean while Dr. jean abused the very followers that
made it all possible. That to me is sick. Like you said " I don't
know the whole story but what I can see, it is just plain sick
on both their parts.- Hide quoted text -
sk
this hurt an onlooker gets it right
the only time in two yrs i ever agreed with your reasoning or could
even tolerate it emmett hope its the last.- Hide quoted text -
Right now is a time to say and mean... you weren't there and don't
know what you are talking about when it comes to things like this.
sk
i agreed with his reasoning and that is what i was talking about makes
sense to me what emmett said :)
why dont you make sure your talking about what i was talking about
befor you accuse what i was talking about with the way you talk about
it
 (you jumped to quik calm down boy you got your chance)
 rp if you had any real appreciation
sk
well right there suppose im an ingrate do i need to repent rp? call it
what it is if you aint holding back their shady
rp
for the situation at the very least you'd hold your tongue a while
before engaging your mouth.
sk
nahh you had your chance
now watch this folks cause this is what rp does with his chance
"You were  sucked in too you know and have what are probably painful
memories of berating your mother and those close to you under the
direct influence"
sk
and peter was a bad boy yet rose to speak
hmm. "sucked into you know"
no your to general and when considering the "direct nature" of your
words to say the least it, seems to require more specifics maybe some
that relate to yourself rp yes that would be helpful then we'll go
from there
so tell me do you have a mother? i mean if were gonna talk about
mine:)
ill tell ya rp you could not imagin the long distance clarity see any
conflict i had with family related to things i was taught by dr.scott
like being a self reliant student of gods word harkening to the heros
of faith and the psalms to live by or understanding the galation
series the message of giving in the last days and the message of grace
and peace,  the life of faith the upward look the breath of eternity
upon our ordinary lives the profound significance of the meaning
within communion the teachings on the prophets and david and paul and
james as a contrast
is all that what you meant by "you know"?
anyway yeah indignation would puff up and i would have to learn to
accept what i couldnt change but i never stopped desiring the
experience of having your spirit regenerated and your mind renewed for
their sakes and that in itself outlived anystrife or misunderstanding
what you presumed to call 'berating"
more of what rp does with his chance
"of Scott's badly stuck crashing cymbals... tinkling brass hard and
bright.... following that noise as though it a directive from God."
sk
always liked that song "gorgia" by ray http://youtu.be/s2G_YCsPbV4
rp
Post by rpbc
Emmett really doesn't know
sk
made sense to me whats the proof of your pursuasion thging is when
dealing with pursuasion one can only suspend belief so long until
desensitization takes over her final years of liberty and leaving at
threat of half of what amounted to church/doc investment no bs she
aint beyond rebuke unless you prove up tape recordings of her
potecting staff volunteers congregants the worship of god and i dont
recall any of that nah she was just docs pretty presumed innocent
rp
 and nor does he look for or care about any of the nuances.   I
appreciate Emmett for his totally beside it all comments but he is not
connected with it in terms of real life and time spent.  He was never
a Scottie and had Jean figured nearly totally the first time he saw
him.  
sk
hes beside it but he had jean figured but he dont care
lol dude nailed it
rp
Christine is not Scott
sk
a woman is no better than the man she chooses to be with now givin the
context whats really going on here was gene scott a shister or a saint
or sick and in need of forgiveness and therefor whats that say about
her.  
rp
Melissa is, just not nearly as competent and hardly intelligent by
comparison but, unlike Christine, big difference.... Melissa is the
only one who got it after thirty five years... spiritual union.
sk
well theres a bunch of who ha about some broad that laughed at you wet
saps as her and doc rode around in the lap of luxury i recall
rp 
Christine left and being her I'd have received half of everything
Scott had and, as far as I'm concerned, she had it coming for the very
fact she slept with Scott those years.
sk
so much for reasonable appeal like this has any intrinsic value worth
leaning on more relative junkie bullshit
rp
 You might say ya, but she did it for money well damned, if so she
sure as hell earned it. Besides, she did respect Scott going into it..
sk
nahh you dont reserve this regard for Gene so it dont apply to her
neither have it your way.
rp
you could tell it just as one can tell Melissa was in for the old man
to die. I respected Scott going into it.Scott didn't/couldn't talk
with Christine the way
Emmett suggests she was under his influence.. he sure did with Melissa
though, common spirit there.  With Melissa he could because she was,
after thirty five years, the only one who got it.  You can speak
horizonally with someone who gets it
sk
with christine i bet it was in the closet and the momey and the stage
and the seemingly sterile order to it all lulled her into going along
dispite the disconnects until she figured it was time to go like the
rest of us but she was in a position of priviledge and this is to be
observed as well ya ask me
with melissa it was out of the box explains her attraction and his
imbalance shes a bottom feeder savin face now while she feeds on the
bottom lol- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The above gibberish is something like Melissa would come up with as a
rebuttal.   Yea... it's that idiotic, churlish.   You weren't there
and for your assessments that is very important.... might keep you
from dysfunctional attempts at defensive analysis.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
your full of shit and its just that simple- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
your a smoke screen cop out thats what your response was and it makes
you deceptive and crafty, shady. like the missy only for real not just
slapped on out of place in the hopes it will stick like your response
was at me

rp is the real slim shady lol when your done broadstrokin all over
the place clean the mess up please ty


rpbc
2011-08-25 20:50:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by philedelphia
Post by rpbc
Post by Emmett
It appears she woke up and escaped with a life time income from
Dr. jean in exchange for not suing for half of the church.
Smart, yes, honorable, I don't think so. If she was as smart as
a lot here seem to think then she had a plan from the beginning
and carried it out and made out like a bandit. Living with and
supporting Dr. jean for 15 years or so does not make her
a very honorable person. Especially seeing people living in
their cars and then enjoying $500.00 dinners and the lap of luxury
with Dr. jean while Dr. jean abused the very followers that
made it all possible. That to me is sick. Like you said " I don't
know the whole story but what I can see, it is just plain sick
on both their parts.- Hide quoted text -
sk
this hurt an onlooker gets it right
the only time in two yrs i ever agreed with your reasoning or could
even tolerate it emmett hope its the last.- Hide quoted text -
Right now is a time to say and mean... you weren't there and don't
know what you are talking about when it comes to things like this.
sk
i agreed with his reasoning and that is what i was talking about makes
sense to me what emmett said :)
why dont you make sure your talking about what i was talking about
befor you accuse what i was talking about with the way you talk about
it
 (you jumped to quik calm down boy you got your chance)
 rp if you had any real appreciation
sk
well right there suppose im an ingrate do i need to repent rp? call it
what it is if you aint holding back their shady
rp
for the situation at the very least you'd hold your tongue a while
before engaging your mouth.
sk
nahh you had your chance
now watch this folks cause this is what rp does with his chance
"You were  sucked in too you know and have what are probably painful
memories of berating your mother and those close to you under the
direct influence"
sk
and peter was a bad boy yet rose to speak
hmm. "sucked into you know"
no your to general and when considering the "direct nature" of your
words to say the least it, seems to require more specifics maybe some
that relate to yourself rp yes that would be helpful then we'll go
from there
so tell me do you have a mother? i mean if were gonna talk about
mine:)
ill tell ya rp you could not imagin the long distance clarity see any
conflict i had with family related to things i was taught by dr.scott
like being a self reliant student of gods word harkening to the heros
of faith and the psalms to live by or understanding the galation
series the message of giving in the last days and the message of grace
and peace,  the life of faith the upward look the breath of eternity
upon our ordinary lives the profound significance of the meaning
within communion the teachings on the prophets and david and paul and
james as a contrast
is all that what you meant by "you know"?
anyway yeah indignation would puff up and i would have to learn to
accept what i couldnt change but i never stopped desiring the
experience of having your spirit regenerated and your mind renewed for
their sakes and that in itself outlived anystrife or misunderstanding
what you presumed to call 'berating"
more of what rp does with his chance
"of Scott's badly stuck crashing cymbals... tinkling brass hard and
bright.... following that noise as though it a directive from God."
sk
always liked that song "gorgia" by ray http://youtu.be/s2G_YCsPbV4
rp
Post by rpbc
Emmett really doesn't know
sk
made sense to me whats the proof of your pursuasion thging is when
dealing with pursuasion one can only suspend belief so long until
desensitization takes over her final years of liberty and leaving at
threat of half of what amounted to church/doc investment no bs she
aint beyond rebuke unless you prove up tape recordings of her
potecting staff volunteers congregants the worship of god and i dont
recall any of that nah she was just docs pretty presumed innocent
rp
 and nor does he look for or care about any of the nuances.   I
appreciate Emmett for his totally beside it all comments but he is not
connected with it in terms of real life and time spent.  He was never
a Scottie and had Jean figured nearly totally the first time he saw
him.  
sk
hes beside it but he had jean figured but he dont care
lol dude nailed it
rp
Christine is not Scott
sk
a woman is no better than the man she chooses to be with now givin the
context whats really going on here was gene scott a shister or a saint
or sick and in need of forgiveness and therefor whats that say about
her.  
rp
Melissa is, just not nearly as competent and hardly intelligent by
comparison but, unlike Christine, big difference.... Melissa is the
only one who got it after thirty five years... spiritual union.
sk
well theres a bunch of who ha about some broad that laughed at you wet
saps as her and doc rode around in the lap of luxury i recall
rp 
Christine left and being her I'd have received half of everything
Scott had and, as far as I'm concerned, she had it coming for the very
fact she slept with Scott those years.
sk
so much for reasonable appeal like this has any intrinsic value worth
leaning on more relative junkie bullshit
rp
 You might say ya, but she did it for money well damned, if so she
sure as hell earned it. Besides, she did respect Scott going into it..
sk
nahh you dont reserve this regard for Gene so it dont apply to her
neither have it your way.
rp
you could tell it just as one can tell Melissa was in for the old man
to die. I respected Scott going into it.Scott didn't/couldn't talk
with Christine the way
Emmett suggests she was under his influence.. he sure did with Melissa
though, common spirit there.  With Melissa he could because she was,
after thirty five years, the only one who got it.  You can speak
horizonally with someone who gets it
sk
with christine i bet it was in the closet and the momey and the stage
and the seemingly sterile order to it all lulled her into going along
dispite the disconnects until she figured it was time to go like the
rest of us but she was in a position of priviledge and this is to be
observed as well ya ask me
with melissa it was out of the box explains her attraction and his
imbalance shes a bottom feeder savin face now while she feeds on the
bottom lol- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
rpbc:
The above gibberish is something like Melissa would come up with as a
rebuttal. Yea... it's that idiotic, churlish. You weren't there
and for your assessments that is very important.... might keep you
from dysfunctional attempts at defensive analysis.
Weatherman
2011-08-25 21:22:09 UTC
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Post by rpbc
Post by philedelphia
Post by Emmett
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by studio
Post by T***@breakthru.com
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
.
Think on this, Christine was one of us.
Stuck in a cultic mindframe, she saw the
transition from church study and respect
to lavish lifestyle changes and irreverent
display of spiritual matters.
Just because Gene Scott lost his mind
doesn't mean she did. The story about her
dancing on the hood of someone's car and
damaging it........reminds me of a
Tom Cruise moment for sure.
Cult behavior is never excused but from
the perspective of another been through the
same mind games, you can really relate.
Compassion on those that have been down that road.
The spirit comes across when confronted
with a mirror image of what could have been you!
She was in bed with Dr. jean for 15 - 20 years??? Like she didn't
know what was going on and what the score was. She was living
in the lap of luxury on the backs of all the scotites just like Dr.
jean
and enjoying every minute of it. She wasn't some great person, she
was a scumbag just like Dr. jean. Can you even imagine the
conversations between them about how Dr. jean was screwing all
the people and them having a good laugh about it??
Maybe we can start referring to her as St. Christine.
I don't think you know the whole story to make that observation.
Let's see, Gene Scott chose Melissa based on what he wanted if
Melissa was Christine. Christine had a real respect for Gene Scott
when she first started working for him as his assistant. As time went
on
you can figure out the paper trail, he used money and things to buy
her
admiration and loyalty.
Sure it got out of control, what do you expect from that madness?
But at some point she woke up..........and escaped. Good for her.
It appears she woke up and escaped with a life time income from
Dr. jean in exchange for not suing for half of the church.
Smart, yes, honorable, I don't think so. If she was as smart as
a lot here seem to think then she had a plan from the beginning
and carried it out and made out like a bandit. Living with and
supporting Dr. jean for 15 years or so does not make her
a very honorable person. Especially seeing people living in
their cars and then enjoying $500.00 dinners and the lap of luxury
with Dr. jean while Dr. jean abused the very followers that
made it all possible. That to me is sick. Like you said " I don't
know the whole story but what I can see, it is just plain sick
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sk
this hurt
an onlooker gets it right
the only time in two yrs i ever agreed with your reasoning or could
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Right now is a time to say and mean... you weren't there and don't
know what you are talking about when it comes to things like this.  If
you had any real appreciation for the situation at the very least
you'd hold your tongue a while before engaging your mouth.  You were
sucked in too you know and have what are probably painful memories of
berating your mother and those close to you under the direct influence
of Scott's badly stuck crashing cymbals... tinkling brass hard and
bright.... following that noise as though it a directive from God.
Emmett really doesn't know and nor does he look for or care about any
of the nuances.   I appreciate Emmett for his totally beside it all
comments but he is not connected with it in terms of real life and
time spent.  He was never a Scottie and had Jean figured nearly
totally the first time he saw him.   Christine is not Scott.  Melissa
is, just not nearly as competent and hardly intelligent by comparison
but, unlike Christine, big difference.... Melissa is the only one who
got it after thirty five years... spiritual union.  Christine left and
being her I'd have received half of everything Scott had and, as far
as I'm concerned, she had it coming for the very fact she slept with
Scott those years.   You might say... ya, but she did it for money....
well damned, if so she sure as hell earned it.  Besides... she did
respect Scott going into it... you could tell it just as one can tell
Melissa was in for the old man to die.  I respected Scott going into
it.
Scott didn't/couldn't talk with Christine the way Emmett suggests....
she was under his influence.. he sure did with Melissa though, common
spirit there.  With Melissa he could because she was, after thirty
five years, the only one who got it.  You can speak horizonally with
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WM-Its funny that in the end of that it came down to legal state law
that dictated the check book. All those goddamed lawyers couldnt save
much. lol I say this becouse one should never wait around for some
folks to do the chirstain thing....you may have to take them to the
judge.
matt2442
2011-08-25 17:40:05 UTC
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I don't think you know the whole story to make that observation.
Let's see, Gene Scott chose Melissa based on what he wanted if
Melissa was Christine. Christine had a real respect for Gene Scott
when she first started working for him as his assistant. As time went
on
you can figure out the paper trail, he used money and things to buy
her
admiration and loyalty.
Sure it got out of control, what do you expect from that madness?
But at some point she woke up..........and escaped. Good for her.
Matt2442:
I agree. Good for her though her way of. If it was 20 years ago and
she was still living the high life with Gene Scott I would have a
different opinion of her, but since she escaped that madness, I wish
her well. I left in 1991, and considered her a partner with Gene Scott
in the corruption at the time.
Weatherman
2011-08-24 14:04:00 UTC
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On Aug 23, 7:56 pm, ***@breakthru.com wrote:
 One thing I have to comment on really
Post by T***@breakthru.com
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
WM-LOL what a bit of brain surgery! Really, it may be intrinsic
evidence of several things. But for sure it falls under the heading of
she dumped him so shes gets it good around here. Poor thing had to
live so close to the monster. LOL.
matt2442
2011-08-25 17:06:37 UTC
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Post by matt2442
Post by studio
Post by matt2442
I wonder if one or both of them are working for Joe Cortes?
Mick Fleck and Joe Cortes? Hmmmm.
I don't know. I'm just wondering. I'm really hoping that they both
just got the hell away from anything that resembles Gene Scott's
ministry.
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
Matt2442:
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
Emmett
2011-08-25 17:36:50 UTC
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Post by matt2442
Post by T***@breakthru.com
Post by matt2442
Post by studio
Post by matt2442
I wonder if one or both of them are working for Joe Cortes?
Mick Fleck and Joe Cortes? Hmmmm.
I don't know. I'm just wondering. I'm really hoping that they both
just got the hell away from anything that resembles Gene Scott's
ministry.
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
Emmett writes:
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
studio
2011-08-25 18:54:42 UTC
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Post by matt2442
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
.
studio:
It might be easier for you if you separate Gene Scott from Christine
Shaw.
Christine took to task the jobs handed to her. You see, at planet
scott
if you knew a certain trade or task, it was for sure you would be
assigned
to some detail you knew little about. That's the way I saw it around
those
times.

Christine took on the challenge of being a technical director, which
is
the proper term for what she did almost everyday. On top of that,
pretty sure she ran other departments and had to cater to Gene Scott
himself. What a chore driven life. Enough said.

Gene was relatively lazy while Christine ran circles around everyone
on and off her award winning horses.

Personally I think God put that horse bug in Gene's ear so that
Christine could be the champion she was meant to be.
Despite being trapped in a cult. selah
philedelphia
2011-08-25 23:08:52 UTC
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Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by matt2442
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
.
It might be easier for you if you separate Gene Scott from Christine
Shaw.
Christine took to task the jobs handed to her. You see, at planet
scott
if you knew a certain trade or task, it was for sure you would be
assigned
to some detail you knew little about. That's the way I saw it around
those
times.
Christine took on the challenge of being a technical director, which
is
the proper term for what she did almost everyday. On top of that,
pretty sure she ran other departments and had to cater to Gene Scott
himself. What a chore driven life. Enough said.
Gene was relatively lazy while Christine ran circles around everyone
on and off her award winning horses.
Personally I think God put that horse bug in Gene's ear so that
Christine could be the champion she was meant to be.
Despite being trapped in a cult. selah- Hide quoted text -
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sk
actualy its studios post here that gives me real pause in my
pursuasion
about christine and being in agreement with emmetts assesment

but the pause is for a synthesis she was to a degree a lady and a
major assett to the ministry as well as an example of dutifull service
and a wife not known to undermine her husband

but like the rest of us that supported even enabled dr.scott to
terrible uncontrolable extreams she was wrong and in truth her
position of privilidge is to be reckoned with this and the coupling of
the threat to the ministry she became in terms of dollars as already
mentioned something like half of it all doc and his church studio
thats rough stuff man i mean what happened where her service and being
an assett to the ministry was reduced down to dollars she could take
with her with no seeming explanation offered up by those that know her
here

just seems like in a way christine made a well timed and quiet escape
however ladylike
studio
2011-08-26 04:24:03 UTC
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Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by matt2442
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
.
It might be easier for you if you separate Gene Scott from Christine
Shaw.
Christine took to task the jobs handed to her. You see, at planet
scott
if you knew a certain trade or task, it was for sure you would be
assigned
to some detail you knew little about. That's the way I saw it around
those
times.
Christine took on the challenge of being a technical director, which
is
the proper term for what she did almost everyday. On top of that,
pretty sure she ran other departments and had to cater to Gene Scott
himself. What a chore driven life. Enough said.
Gene was relatively lazy while Christine ran circles around everyone
on and off her award winning horses.
Personally I think God put that horse bug in Gene's ear so that
Christine could be the champion she was meant to be.
Despite being trapped in a cult. selah- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
actualy its studios post here that gives me real pause in my
pursuasion
about christine and being in agreement with emmetts assesment
but the pause is for a synthesis she was to a degree a lady and a
major assett to the ministry as well as an example of dutifull service
and a wife not known to undermine her husband
but like the rest of us that supported even enabled dr.scott to
terrible uncontrolable extreams she was wrong and in truth her
position of privilidge is to be reckoned with this and the coupling of
the threat to the ministry she became in terms of dollars as already
mentioned something like half of it all doc and his church studio
thats rough stuff man i mean what happened where her service and being
an assett to the ministry was reduced down to dollars she could take
with her with no seeming explanation offered up by those that know her
here
just seems like in a way christine made a well timed and quiet escape
however ladylike
.
studio:
That part of "taking half" was Gene Scott's BS to the congregation.
Christine wanted out, not half. she knew that was her defensive
strategy against the bright attorneys he had. She smoke screened them
into working angles against he taking money away with her and they
totally got misdirected into just getting her out of their hair.

That's a way smart move. Shoot for the moon and hope they are
too distracted to see your real angle. Escape.
Weatherman
2011-08-26 13:38:23 UTC
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Post by studio
Post by philedelphia
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by matt2442
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
.
It might be easier for you if you separate Gene Scott from Christine
Shaw.
Christine took to task the jobs handed to her. You see, at planet
scott
if you knew a certain trade or task, it was for sure you would be
assigned
to some detail you knew little about. That's the way I saw it around
those
times.
Christine took on the challenge of being a technical director, which
is
the proper term for what she did almost everyday. On top of that,
pretty sure she ran other departments and had to cater to Gene Scott
himself. What a chore driven life. Enough said.
Gene was relatively lazy while Christine ran circles around everyone
on and off her award winning horses.
Personally I think God put that horse bug in Gene's ear so that
Christine could be the champion she was meant to be.
Despite being trapped in a cult. selah- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
actualy its studios post here that gives me real pause in my
pursuasion
about christine and being in agreement with emmetts assesment
but the pause is for a synthesis she was to a degree a lady and a
major assett to the ministry as well as an example of dutifull service
and a wife not known to undermine her husband
but like the rest of us that supported even enabled dr.scott to
terrible uncontrolable extreams she was wrong and in truth her
position of privilidge is to be reckoned with this and the coupling of
the threat to the ministry she became in terms of dollars as already
mentioned something like half of it all doc and his church studio
thats rough stuff man i mean what happened where her service and being
an assett to the ministry was reduced down to dollars she could take
with her with no seeming explanation offered up by those that know her
here
just seems like in a way christine made a well timed and quiet escape
however ladylike
.
That part of "taking half" was Gene Scott's BS to the congregation.
Christine wanted out, not half. she knew that was her defensive
strategy against the bright attorneys he had. She smoke screened them
into working angles against he taking money away with her and they
totally got misdirected into just getting her out of their hair.
That's a way smart move. Shoot for the moon and hope they are
too distracted to see your real angle. Escape.- Hide quoted text -
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WM-Really? Why didnt she just go then and run off with the tennis pro
guy?
Weatherman
2011-08-26 13:59:00 UTC
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Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by matt2442
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
.
It might be easier for you if you separate Gene Scott from Christine
Shaw.
Christine took to task the jobs handed to her. You see, at planet
scott
if you knew a certain trade or task, it was for sure you would be
assigned
to some detail you knew little about. That's the way I saw it around
those
times.
Christine took on the challenge of being a technical director, which
is
the proper term for what she did almost everyday. On top of that,
pretty sure she ran other departments and had to cater to Gene Scott
himself. What a chore driven life. Enough said.
Gene was relatively lazy while Christine ran circles around everyone
on and off her award winning horses.
Personally I think God put that horse bug in Gene's ear so that
Christine could be the champion she was meant to be.
Despite being trapped in a cult. selah- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
actualy its studios post here that gives me real pause in my
pursuasion
about christine and being in agreement with emmetts assesment
but the pause is for a synthesis she was to a degree a lady and a
major assett to the ministry as well as an example of dutifull service
and a wife not known to undermine her husband
but like the rest of us that supported even enabled dr.scott to
terrible uncontrolable extreams she was wrong and in truth her
position of privilidge is to be reckoned with this and the coupling of
the threat to the ministry she became in terms of dollars as already
mentioned something like half of it all doc and his church studio
thats rough stuff man i mean what happened where her service and being
an assett to the ministry was reduced down to dollars she could take
with her with no seeming explanation offered up by those that know her
here
just seems like in a way christine made a well timed and quiet escape
however ladylike- Hide quoted text -
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WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.

Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect

There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.

Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
studio
2011-08-26 15:53:21 UTC
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Post by Weatherman
WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.
Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect
There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.
Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
.
studio:

Gene Scott openly said on fleecetival that the congregation had
nothing
to do with the purchase of The Cathedral. That it was all Gene Scott.
It was a reprimand for sure. A carrot on a stick. He could close the
doors
on it at any time. Well, he didn't but Melissa did.

I passed by the Downtown Broadway location twice this week. I was
up on the 37th floor of a LA highrise facilitating a video
conferencing
system. The view of the Cathedral from that angle.....looked small
and not so menacing or invincible.

Then I passed by in my car and noticed the sign that had always been
there under the marquis, a little 3 foot with one of The Truth
About....
spreads on it. It looked out of place for a ghost of a building.
philedelphia
2011-08-26 16:37:40 UTC
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Post by Weatherman
WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.
Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect
There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.
Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
.
Gene Scott openly said on fleecetival  that the congregation had
nothing
to do with the purchase of The Cathedral. That it was all Gene Scott.
It was a reprimand for sure. A carrot on a stick. He could close the
doors
on it at any time. Well, he didn't but Melissa did.
I passed by the Downtown Broadway location twice this week. I was
up on the 37th floor of a LA highrise facilitating a video
conferencing
system. The view of the Cathedral from that angle.....looked small
and not so menacing or invincible.
Then I passed by in my car and noticed the sign that had always been
there under the marquis, a little 3 foot with one of The Truth
About....
spreads on it. It looked out of place for a ghost of a building.- Hide quoted text -
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in a castle dark or a fortress strong with chains upon my feet you
know that ghost is me and i will never be set free as long as im a
ghost that you cant see

where does pappa end and the holy spirit begin?

oh pappa

thats just sad

Emmett
2011-08-26 17:00:50 UTC
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Post by Weatherman
WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.
Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect
There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.
Emmett writes:
It would have opened up pandoras box. All the money Dr. jean had
been hiding and all the lies and bullshit he had been handing people
over all the years all would have been exposed.
Post by Weatherman
Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
Emmett writes:
That was when the Globe was going to print the story by one of the
pony girls who told how Dr. jean liked to watch the girls have sex
with each other. He wasn't able to join in, just watch. Ya, he was
a real man of God.
Gypsie
2011-08-26 21:06:22 UTC
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                         snip
Post by Weatherman
WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.
Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect
There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.
It would have opened up pandoras box. All the money Dr. jean had
been hiding and all the lies and bullshit he had been handing people
over all the years all would have been exposed.
Post by Weatherman
Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
That was when the Globe was going to print the story by one of the
pony girls who told how Dr. jean liked to watch the girls have sex
with each other. He wasn't able to join in, just watch. Ya, he was
a real man of God.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: actually the thrust of the story was that doc and planet scott
did not pay these gals for their time 'modeling' not that the other
stuff may or may not have been exposed, but that true subject was that
planet scott did not pay them as they did not pay staff and there was
a bimbo eruption.
Emmett
2011-08-27 02:59:34 UTC
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Post by Gypsie
                         snip
Post by Weatherman
WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.
Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect
There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.
It would have opened up pandoras box. All the money Dr. jean had
been hiding and all the lies and bullshit he had been handing people
over all the years all would have been exposed.
Post by Weatherman
Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
That was when the Globe was going to print the story by one of the
pony girls who told how Dr. jean liked to watch the girls have sex
with each other. He wasn't able to join in, just watch. Ya, he was
a real man of God.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: actually the thrust of the story was that doc and planet scott
did not pay these gals for their time 'modeling' not that the other
stuff may or may not have been exposed, but that true subject was that
planet scott did not pay them as they did not pay staff and there was
a bimbo eruption.
Emmett writes:
I thought he did pay them for the camera time. It was when he took
them out to dinner or time on the ranch having fun that they wanted
paid.
Weatherman
2011-08-27 05:50:40 UTC
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Post by Emmett
Post by Gypsie
                         snip
Post by Weatherman
WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.
Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect
There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.
It would have opened up pandoras box. All the money Dr. jean had
been hiding and all the lies and bullshit he had been handing people
over all the years all would have been exposed.
Post by Weatherman
Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
That was when the Globe was going to print the story by one of the
pony girls who told how Dr. jean liked to watch the girls have sex
with each other. He wasn't able to join in, just watch. Ya, he was
a real man of God.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: actually the thrust of the story was that doc and planet scott
did not pay these gals for their time 'modeling' not that the other
stuff may or may not have been exposed, but that true subject was that
planet scott did not pay them as they did not pay staff and there was
a bimbo eruption.
I thought he did pay them for the camera time. It was when he took
them out to dinner or time on the ranch having fun that they wanted
paid.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Well they were big money fasion..lol....call grils?
w_bane
2011-08-27 06:22:39 UTC
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Post by Gypsie
                         snip
Post by Weatherman
WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.
Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect
There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.
It would have opened up pandoras box. All the money Dr. jean had
been hiding and all the lies and bullshit he had been handing people
over all the years all would have been exposed.
Post by Weatherman
Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
That was when the Globe was going to print the story by one of the
pony girls who told how Dr. jean liked to watch the girls have sex
with each other. He wasn't able to join in, just watch. Ya, he was
a real man of God.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: actually the thrust of the story was that doc and planet scott
did not pay these gals for their time 'modeling' not that the other
stuff may or may not have been exposed, but that true subject was that
planet scott did not pay them as they did not pay staff and there was
a bimbo eruption.
I thought he did pay them for the camera time. It was when he took
them out to dinner or time on the ranch having fun that they wanted
paid.- Hide quoted text -
<It was when he took them out to dinner or time on the ranch having
fun that they wanted
paid>
They get paid for that to.

Didn't Christine run off with a tennis player, or something like
that.
Or was Gene lying?
And around that time there were gay rumors about Gene?, or her
catching him with someone, I vaguely remember.

Christine probably wouldn't except a gay thing but maybe Melissa
would.

hmmm tennis player, that sounds like something Melissa would do.

it's always these bad women doing bad adulteress things behind Genes
back

it didn't matter that Melissa was married.
Gypsie
2011-08-27 06:25:36 UTC
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Post by Emmett
Post by Gypsie
                         snip
Post by Weatherman
WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.
Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect
There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.
It would have opened up pandoras box. All the money Dr. jean had
been hiding and all the lies and bullshit he had been handing people
over all the years all would have been exposed.
Post by Weatherman
Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
That was when the Globe was going to print the story by one of the
pony girls who told how Dr. jean liked to watch the girls have sex
with each other. He wasn't able to join in, just watch. Ya, he was
a real man of God.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: actually the thrust of the story was that doc and planet scott
did not pay these gals for their time 'modeling' not that the other
stuff may or may not have been exposed, but that true subject was that
planet scott did not pay them as they did not pay staff and there was
a bimbo eruption.
I thought he did pay them for the camera time. It was when he took
them out to dinner or time on the ranch having fun that they wanted
paid.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: they got paid when they threatened to give the story to
tabloids. Everything doc did with them was on camera so there really
was no difference.
w_bane
2011-08-27 06:32:08 UTC
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Post by Gypsie
Post by Emmett
Post by Gypsie
                         snip
Post by Weatherman
WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.
Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect
There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.
It would have opened up pandoras box. All the money Dr. jean had
been hiding and all the lies and bullshit he had been handing people
over all the years all would have been exposed.
Post by Weatherman
Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
That was when the Globe was going to print the story by one of the
pony girls who told how Dr. jean liked to watch the girls have sex
with each other. He wasn't able to join in, just watch. Ya, he was
a real man of God.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: actually the thrust of the story was that doc and planet scott
did not pay these gals for their time 'modeling' not that the other
stuff may or may not have been exposed, but that true subject was that
planet scott did not pay them as they did not pay staff and there was
a bimbo eruption.
I thought he did pay them for the camera time. It was when he took
them out to dinner or time on the ranch having fun that they wanted
paid.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: they got paid when they threatened to give the story to
tabloids. Everything doc did with them was on camera so there really
was no difference.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Everything doc did with them was on camera so there really
was no difference. >>

they could provoke the behind the scene imaginations lol
Gypsie
2011-08-27 07:13:23 UTC
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Post by Gypsie
Post by Emmett
Post by Gypsie
                         snip
Post by Weatherman
WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.
Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect
There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.
It would have opened up pandoras box. All the money Dr. jean had
been hiding and all the lies and bullshit he had been handing people
over all the years all would have been exposed.
Post by Weatherman
Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
That was when the Globe was going to print the story by one of the
pony girls who told how Dr. jean liked to watch the girls have sex
with each other. He wasn't able to join in, just watch. Ya, he was
a real man of God.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: actually the thrust of the story was that doc and planet scott
did not pay these gals for their time 'modeling' not that the other
stuff may or may not have been exposed, but that true subject was that
planet scott did not pay them as they did not pay staff and there was
a bimbo eruption.
I thought he did pay them for the camera time. It was when he took
them out to dinner or time on the ranch having fun that they wanted
paid.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: they got paid when they threatened to give the story to
tabloids. Everything doc did with them was on camera so there really
was no difference.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Everything doc did with them was on camera so there really
was no difference. >>
they could provoke the behind the scene imaginations lol- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: oh yah and doc fueled it with his over the top descriptions lol
Weatherman
2011-08-27 05:30:29 UTC
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                         snip
Post by Weatherman
WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.
Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect
There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.
It would have opened up pandoras box. All the money Dr. jean had
been hiding and all the lies and bullshit he had been handing people
over all the years all would have been exposed.
Post by Weatherman
Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
That was when the Globe was going to print the story by one of the
pony girls who told how Dr. jean liked to watch the girls have sex
with each other. He wasn't able to join in, just watch. Ya, he was
a real man of God.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Rememebr the story about one of the chick getting in the buff and
waiting for him in his bed? He told that one! Right from the pulpit.
lol what a hoot. But the watching the dikes have sex thing is hard to
believe.
w_bane
2011-08-27 06:01:48 UTC
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Post by Weatherman
                         snip
Post by Weatherman
WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.
Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect
There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.
It would have opened up pandoras box. All the money Dr. jean had
been hiding and all the lies and bullshit he had been handing people
over all the years all would have been exposed.
Post by Weatherman
Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
That was when the Globe was going to print the story by one of the
pony girls who told how Dr. jean liked to watch the girls have sex
with each other. He wasn't able to join in, just watch. Ya, he was
a real man of God.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Rememebr the story about one of the chick getting in the buff and
waiting for him in his bed? He told that one! Right from the pulpit.
lol what a hoot. But the watching the dikes have sex thing is hard to
believe.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
<the watching the dikes have sex thing is hard to
believe.>

that could of been Melissa's idea
rpbc
2011-08-27 07:23:24 UTC
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Post by Weatherman
                         snip
Post by Weatherman
WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.
Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect
There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.
It would have opened up pandoras box. All the money Dr. jean had
been hiding and all the lies and bullshit he had been handing people
over all the years all would have been exposed.
Post by Weatherman
Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
That was when the Globe was going to print the story by one of the
pony girls who told how Dr. jean liked to watch the girls have sex
with each other. He wasn't able to join in, just watch. Ya, he was
a real man of God.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Rememebr the story about one of the chick getting in the buff and
waiting for him in his bed? He told that one! Right from the pulpit.
lol what a hoot. But the watching the dikes have sex thing is hard to
believe.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
rpbc:
Hard to believe! Of all the things finding hard to believe that one
seems rather tame. I mean... s..t, you can get that sort of thing and
a good mixed drink too many places in town. You mean that's not the
sort of thing he'd engage in or his morals and good Christian standing
would keep him from being part of it? You should have seen some of
the barnyard/stable stuff that went on.
Weatherman
2011-08-28 11:24:19 UTC
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Post by Weatherman
                         snip
Post by Weatherman
WM-Well I would like some compensation, just to be sure and really not
for my good mind you but the good of the ministry but so that someone
wouldnt be tempted to use me as some sort of poster boy. Like a
goddamed scientologist.
Gene should have got some pre-nup thing there if he were so worried
about it. ectect
There is an interesting legal question just setting there. How could
his wifes wanting half of whatever or whatever amount of his personal
income or holding put the church in jepordy? Though everything was
protected behind layers. Was Gene lying about it to put pressure on
her, not that that would amount to much, or what. What was she doing
going after his 1$ a year? If she could have put the ministry in
straits how would that be done outside of some definition of the
ministry, its real definiton that would allow this? Think about it.
Maybe in a court battle somehow that church or work or whatever could
be seen as a personal asset.
It would have opened up pandoras box. All the money Dr. jean had
been hiding and all the lies and bullshit he had been handing people
over all the years all would have been exposed.
Post by Weatherman
Oh by the way....we all paid for that by supporting Genes "War Chest".
Remember that? A war Chest to help stave off what could have been a
battle over time against the wicked evil foes!
That was when the Globe was going to print the story by one of the
pony girls who told how Dr. jean liked to watch the girls have sex
with each other. He wasn't able to join in, just watch. Ya, he was
a real man of God.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Rememebr the story about one of the chick getting in the buff and
waiting for him in his bed? He told that one! Right from the pulpit.
lol what a hoot. But the watching the dikes have sex thing is hard to
believe.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Hard to believe!  Of all the things finding hard to believe that one
seems rather tame.  I mean... s..t, you can get that sort of thing and
a good mixed drink too many places in town.   You mean that's not the
sort of thing he'd engage in or his morals and good Christian standing
would keep him from being part of it?  You should have seen some of
the barnyard/stable stuff that went on.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-What about the folks that were very close to him? Why do we have to
hear it from the girls? We dont have anyone here like Malcum X to tell
us first hand of the great prophets antics?

Take what Gypse said about him keeping a lookout for fine ladies in
the flock. How is it that something like that never blew up on him
considering what he would say about not comming to church looking for
girls and some other things. You know how hypocricy this raw always
sets someone off. And what does this mean anyway? Did he date women in
his church and when? Doesnt sound like there was much of a window for
that between marriges. So far all we have are suggestions. Like I said
what does keeping an eye out for ladies in his church really mean.
Gypsie
2011-08-26 21:01:37 UTC
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Post by philedelphia
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by matt2442
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
.
It might be easier for you if you separate Gene Scott from Christine
Shaw.
Christine took to task the jobs handed to her. You see, at planet
scott
if you knew a certain trade or task, it was for sure you would be
assigned
to some detail you knew little about. That's the way I saw it around
those
times.
Christine took on the challenge of being a technical director, which
is
the proper term for what she did almost everyday. On top of that,
pretty sure she ran other departments and had to cater to Gene Scott
himself. What a chore driven life. Enough said.
Gene was relatively lazy while Christine ran circles around everyone
on and off her award winning horses.
Personally I think God put that horse bug in Gene's ear so that
Christine could be the champion she was meant to be.
Despite being trapped in a cult. selah- Hide quoted text -
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sk
actualy its studios post here that gives me real pause in my
pursuasion
about christine and being in agreement with emmetts assesment
but the pause is for a synthesis she was to a degree a lady and a
major assett to the ministry as well as an example of dutifull service
and a wife not known to undermine her husband
but like the rest of us that supported even enabled dr.scott to
terrible uncontrolable extreams she was wrong and in truth her
position of privilidge is to be reckoned with this and the coupling of
the threat to the ministry she became in terms of dollars as already
mentioned something like half of it all doc and his church studio
thats rough stuff man i mean what happened where her service and being
an assett to the ministry was reduced down to dollars she could take
with her with no seeming explanation offered up by those that know her
here
just seems like in a way christine made a well timed and quiet escape
however ladylike- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: I cannot even believe anyone even bothered to respond to this
post re Christine Shaw, it has been covered from all sides in afgs
archives. Lazy bones eats has no real interest or else s/he would take
the time to go check it out, or is it really true that scotties can
only parrot and not comprehend a truthful statement or history? Go
ahead loser, take the time and check it out like TF (doubt it, dickwad
in the midst) PLONK!
philedelphia
2011-08-26 22:28:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gypsie
Post by philedelphia
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by matt2442
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
.
It might be easier for you if you separate Gene Scott from Christine
Shaw.
Christine took to task the jobs handed to her. You see, at planet
scott
if you knew a certain trade or task, it was for sure you would be
assigned
to some detail you knew little about. That's the way I saw it around
those
times.
Christine took on the challenge of being a technical director, which
is
the proper term for what she did almost everyday. On top of that,
pretty sure she ran other departments and had to cater to Gene Scott
himself. What a chore driven life. Enough said.
Gene was relatively lazy while Christine ran circles around everyone
on and off her award winning horses.
Personally I think God put that horse bug in Gene's ear so that
Christine could be the champion she was meant to be.
Despite being trapped in a cult. selah- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
actualy its studios post here that gives me real pause in my
pursuasion
about christine and being in agreement with emmetts assesment
but the pause is for a synthesis she was to a degree a lady and a
major assett to the ministry as well as an example of dutifull service
and a wife not known to undermine her husband
but like the rest of us that supported even enabled dr.scott to
terrible uncontrolable extreams she was wrong and in truth her
position of privilidge is to be reckoned with this and the coupling of
the threat to the ministry she became in terms of dollars as already
mentioned something like half of it all doc and his church studio
thats rough stuff man i mean what happened where her service and being
an assett to the ministry was reduced down to dollars she could take
with her with no seeming explanation offered up by those that know her
here
just seems like in a way christine made a well timed and quiet escape
however ladylike- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: I cannot even believe anyone even bothered to respond to this
post re Christine Shaw, it has been covered from all sides in afgs
archives. Lazy bones eats has no real interest or else s/he would take
the time to go check it out, or is it really true that scotties can
only parrot and not comprehend a truthful statement or history? Go
ahead loser, take the time and check it out like TF (doubt it, dickwad
in the midst) PLONK!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
have your day laodicea i reserved a spot just for you theres some wine
waiting you hateful indifferent shitbag with a mouth your the foulest
mouth i ever heard on a woman reminds me of that scene from way of the
gun where that girl gets the shit punched out of her for runnin her
mouth at some guy thinkin it wouldnt happen god i love the movies :))
blah blah blah pop lol hey its just a movie....



have i told you to go fuck yourself lately gyp
rpbc
2011-08-27 01:38:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by philedelphia
Post by Gypsie
Post by philedelphia
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by matt2442
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
.
It might be easier for you if you separate Gene Scott from Christine
Shaw.
Christine took to task the jobs handed to her. You see, at planet
scott
if you knew a certain trade or task, it was for sure you would be
assigned
to some detail you knew little about. That's the way I saw it around
those
times.
Christine took on the challenge of being a technical director, which
is
the proper term for what she did almost everyday. On top of that,
pretty sure she ran other departments and had to cater to Gene Scott
himself. What a chore driven life. Enough said.
Gene was relatively lazy while Christine ran circles around everyone
on and off her award winning horses.
Personally I think God put that horse bug in Gene's ear so that
Christine could be the champion she was meant to be.
Despite being trapped in a cult. selah- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
actualy its studios post here that gives me real pause in my
pursuasion
about christine and being in agreement with emmetts assesment
but the pause is for a synthesis she was to a degree a lady and a
major assett to the ministry as well as an example of dutifull service
and a wife not known to undermine her husband
but like the rest of us that supported even enabled dr.scott to
terrible uncontrolable extreams she was wrong and in truth her
position of privilidge is to be reckoned with this and the coupling of
the threat to the ministry she became in terms of dollars as already
mentioned something like half of it all doc and his church studio
thats rough stuff man i mean what happened where her service and being
an assett to the ministry was reduced down to dollars she could take
with her with no seeming explanation offered up by those that know her
here
just seems like in a way christine made a well timed and quiet escape
however ladylike- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: I cannot even believe anyone even bothered to respond to this
post re Christine Shaw, it has been covered from all sides in afgs
archives. Lazy bones eats has no real interest or else s/he would take
the time to go check it out, or is it really true that scotties can
only parrot and not comprehend a truthful statement or history? Go
ahead loser, take the time and check it out like TF (doubt it, dickwad
in the midst) PLONK!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
have your day laodicea i reserved a spot just for you theres some wine
waiting you hateful indifferent shitbag with a mouth your the foulest
mouth i ever heard on a woman reminds me of that scene from way of the
gun where that girl gets the shit punched out of her for runnin her
mouth at some guy thinkin it wouldnt happen god i love the movies  :))
blah blah blah pop lol hey its just a movie....
have i told you to go fuck yourself lately gyp- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
rpbc:
Oh no no no.... you need to get out more often. The foulest mouthed
woman I ever heard was lying beside me increasing in ecstasy.
studio
2011-08-27 18:05:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by philedelphia
Post by Gypsie
Post by philedelphia
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by matt2442
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
.
It might be easier for you if you separate Gene Scott from Christine
Shaw.
Christine took to task the jobs handed to her. You see, at planet
scott
if you knew a certain trade or task, it was for sure you would be
assigned
to some detail you knew little about. That's the way I saw it around
those
times.
Christine took on the challenge of being a technical director, which
is
the proper term for what she did almost everyday. On top of that,
pretty sure she ran other departments and had to cater to Gene Scott
himself. What a chore driven life. Enough said.
Gene was relatively lazy while Christine ran circles around everyone
on and off her award winning horses.
Personally I think God put that horse bug in Gene's ear so that
Christine could be the champion she was meant to be.
Despite being trapped in a cult. selah- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
actualy its studios post here that gives me real pause in my
pursuasion
about christine and being in agreement with emmetts assesment
but the pause is for a synthesis she was to a degree a lady and a
major assett to the ministry as well as an example of dutifull service
and a wife not known to undermine her husband
but like the rest of us that supported even enabled dr.scott to
terrible uncontrolable extreams she was wrong and in truth her
position of privilidge is to be reckoned with this and the coupling of
the threat to the ministry she became in terms of dollars as already
mentioned something like half of it all doc and his church studio
thats rough stuff man i mean what happened where her service and being
an assett to the ministry was reduced down to dollars she could take
with her with no seeming explanation offered up by those that know her
here
just seems like in a way christine made a well timed and quiet escape
however ladylike- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: I cannot even believe anyone even bothered to respond to this
post re Christine Shaw, it has been covered from all sides in afgs
archives. Lazy bones eats has no real interest or else s/he would take
the time to go check it out, or is it really true that scotties can
only parrot and not comprehend a truthful statement or history? Go
ahead loser, take the time and check it out like TF (doubt it, dickwad
in the midst) PLONK!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
have your day laodicea i reserved a spot just for you theres some wine
waiting you hateful indifferent shitbag with a mouth your the foulest
mouth i ever heard on a woman reminds me of that scene from way of the
gun where that girl gets the shit punched out of her for runnin her
mouth at some guy thinkin it wouldnt happen god i love the movies  :))
blah blah blah pop lol hey its just a movie....
have i told you to go fuck yourself lately gyp
Oh Philly, quit being so thin skinned.
As for me, I love gypsie's mouth,
it's attached to her ears!
Weatherman
2011-08-28 12:03:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by studio
Post by philedelphia
Post by Gypsie
Post by philedelphia
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by matt2442
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
.
It might be easier for you if you separate Gene Scott from Christine
Shaw.
Christine took to task the jobs handed to her. You see, at planet
scott
if you knew a certain trade or task, it was for sure you would be
assigned
to some detail you knew little about. That's the way I saw it around
those
times.
Christine took on the challenge of being a technical director, which
is
the proper term for what she did almost everyday. On top of that,
pretty sure she ran other departments and had to cater to Gene Scott
himself. What a chore driven life. Enough said.
Gene was relatively lazy while Christine ran circles around everyone
on and off her award winning horses.
Personally I think God put that horse bug in Gene's ear so that
Christine could be the champion she was meant to be.
Despite being trapped in a cult. selah- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
actualy its studios post here that gives me real pause in my
pursuasion
about christine and being in agreement with emmetts assesment
but the pause is for a synthesis she was to a degree a lady and a
major assett to the ministry as well as an example of dutifull service
and a wife not known to undermine her husband
but like the rest of us that supported even enabled dr.scott to
terrible uncontrolable extreams she was wrong and in truth her
position of privilidge is to be reckoned with this and the coupling of
the threat to the ministry she became in terms of dollars as already
mentioned something like half of it all doc and his church studio
thats rough stuff man i mean what happened where her service and being
an assett to the ministry was reduced down to dollars she could take
with her with no seeming explanation offered up by those that know her
here
just seems like in a way christine made a well timed and quiet escape
however ladylike- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: I cannot even believe anyone even bothered to respond to this
post re Christine Shaw, it has been covered from all sides in afgs
archives. Lazy bones eats has no real interest or else s/he would take
the time to go check it out, or is it really true that scotties can
only parrot and not comprehend a truthful statement or history? Go
ahead loser, take the time and check it out like TF (doubt it, dickwad
in the midst) PLONK!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
have your day laodicea i reserved a spot just for you theres some wine
waiting you hateful indifferent shitbag with a mouth your the foulest
mouth i ever heard on a woman reminds me of that scene from way of the
gun where that girl gets the shit punched out of her for runnin her
mouth at some guy thinkin it wouldnt happen god i love the movies  :))
blah blah blah pop lol hey its just a movie....
have i told you to go fuck yourself lately gyp
Oh Philly, quit being so thin skinned.
As for me, I love gypsie's mouth,
it's attached to her ears!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Yea really hes only had a small taste of the wrath.
philedelphia
2011-08-28 15:25:07 UTC
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Post by studio
Post by philedelphia
Post by Gypsie
Post by philedelphia
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by matt2442
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
.
It might be easier for you if you separate Gene Scott from Christine
Shaw.
Christine took to task the jobs handed to her. You see, at planet
scott
if you knew a certain trade or task, it was for sure you would be
assigned
to some detail you knew little about. That's the way I saw it around
those
times.
Christine took on the challenge of being a technical director, which
is
the proper term for what she did almost everyday. On top of that,
pretty sure she ran other departments and had to cater to Gene Scott
himself. What a chore driven life. Enough said.
Gene was relatively lazy while Christine ran circles around everyone
on and off her award winning horses.
Personally I think God put that horse bug in Gene's ear so that
Christine could be the champion she was meant to be.
Despite being trapped in a cult. selah- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
actualy its studios post here that gives me real pause in my
pursuasion
about christine and being in agreement with emmetts assesment
but the pause is for a synthesis she was to a degree a lady and a
major assett to the ministry as well as an example of dutifull service
and a wife not known to undermine her husband
but like the rest of us that supported even enabled dr.scott to
terrible uncontrolable extreams she was wrong and in truth her
position of privilidge is to be reckoned with this and the coupling of
the threat to the ministry she became in terms of dollars as already
mentioned something like half of it all doc and his church studio
thats rough stuff man i mean what happened where her service and being
an assett to the ministry was reduced down to dollars she could take
with her with no seeming explanation offered up by those that know her
here
just seems like in a way christine made a well timed and quiet escape
however ladylike- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: I cannot even believe anyone even bothered to respond to this
post re Christine Shaw, it has been covered from all sides in afgs
archives. Lazy bones eats has no real interest or else s/he would take
the time to go check it out, or is it really true that scotties can
only parrot and not comprehend a truthful statement or history? Go
ahead loser, take the time and check it out like TF (doubt it, dickwad
in the midst) PLONK!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
have your day laodicea i reserved a spot just for you theres some wine
waiting you hateful indifferent shitbag with a mouth your the foulest
mouth i ever heard on a woman reminds me of that scene from way of the
gun where that girl gets the shit punched out of her for runnin her
mouth at some guy thinkin it wouldnt happen god i love the movies  :))
blah blah blah pop lol hey its just a movie....
have i told you to go fuck yourself lately gyp
Oh Philly, quit being so thin skinned.
As for me, I love gypsie's mouth,
it's attached to her ears!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Yea really hes only had a small taste of the wrath.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
its the other way around really and she needs to get it

thinskinned?
your defending a wet gremlin dork heres a towel lol
rpbc
2011-08-27 01:20:14 UTC
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Post by Gypsie
Post by philedelphia
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by matt2442
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
.
It might be easier for you if you separate Gene Scott from Christine
Shaw.
Christine took to task the jobs handed to her. You see, at planet
scott
if you knew a certain trade or task, it was for sure you would be
assigned
to some detail you knew little about. That's the way I saw it around
those
times.
Christine took on the challenge of being a technical director, which
is
the proper term for what she did almost everyday. On top of that,
pretty sure she ran other departments and had to cater to Gene Scott
himself. What a chore driven life. Enough said.
Gene was relatively lazy while Christine ran circles around everyone
on and off her award winning horses.
Personally I think God put that horse bug in Gene's ear so that
Christine could be the champion she was meant to be.
Despite being trapped in a cult. selah- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
actualy its studios post here that gives me real pause in my
pursuasion
about christine and being in agreement with emmetts assesment
but the pause is for a synthesis she was to a degree a lady and a
major assett to the ministry as well as an example of dutifull service
and a wife not known to undermine her husband
but like the rest of us that supported even enabled dr.scott to
terrible uncontrolable extreams she was wrong and in truth her
position of privilidge is to be reckoned with this and the coupling of
the threat to the ministry she became in terms of dollars as already
mentioned something like half of it all doc and his church studio
thats rough stuff man i mean what happened where her service and being
an assett to the ministry was reduced down to dollars she could take
with her with no seeming explanation offered up by those that know her
here
just seems like in a way christine made a well timed and quiet escape
however ladylike- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: I cannot even believe anyone even bothered to respond to this
post re Christine Shaw, it has been covered from all sides in afgs
archives. Lazy bones eats has no real interest or else s/he would take
the time to go check it out, or is it really true that scotties can
only parrot and not comprehend a truthful statement or history? Go
ahead loser, take the time and check it out like TF (doubt it, dickwad
in the midst) PLONK!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
rpbc:
I responded. I'm sorry. I'm an asshole.....

How am I doing.......
Gypsie
2011-08-27 06:21:15 UTC
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Post by Gypsie
Post by philedelphia
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by matt2442
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
.
It might be easier for you if you separate Gene Scott from Christine
Shaw.
Christine took to task the jobs handed to her. You see, at planet
scott
if you knew a certain trade or task, it was for sure you would be
assigned
to some detail you knew little about. That's the way I saw it around
those
times.
Christine took on the challenge of being a technical director, which
is
the proper term for what she did almost everyday. On top of that,
pretty sure she ran other departments and had to cater to Gene Scott
himself. What a chore driven life. Enough said.
Gene was relatively lazy while Christine ran circles around everyone
on and off her award winning horses.
Personally I think God put that horse bug in Gene's ear so that
Christine could be the champion she was meant to be.
Despite being trapped in a cult. selah- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
actualy its studios post here that gives me real pause in my
pursuasion
about christine and being in agreement with emmetts assesment
but the pause is for a synthesis she was to a degree a lady and a
major assett to the ministry as well as an example of dutifull service
and a wife not known to undermine her husband
but like the rest of us that supported even enabled dr.scott to
terrible uncontrolable extreams she was wrong and in truth her
position of privilidge is to be reckoned with this and the coupling of
the threat to the ministry she became in terms of dollars as already
mentioned something like half of it all doc and his church studio
thats rough stuff man i mean what happened where her service and being
an assett to the ministry was reduced down to dollars she could take
with her with no seeming explanation offered up by those that know her
here
just seems like in a way christine made a well timed and quiet escape
however ladylike- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: I cannot even believe anyone even bothered to respond to this
post re Christine Shaw, it has been covered from all sides in afgs
archives. Lazy bones eats has no real interest or else s/he would take
the time to go check it out, or is it really true that scotties can
only parrot and not comprehend a truthful statement or history? Go
ahead loser, take the time and check it out like TF (doubt it, dickwad
in the midst) PLONK!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I responded.  I'm sorry.  I'm an asshole.....
How am I doing.......- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: ya forgot to salute lol
rpbc
2011-08-27 22:27:55 UTC
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Post by Gypsie
Post by philedelphia
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
Post by matt2442
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.
.
It might be easier for you if you separate Gene Scott from Christine
Shaw.
Christine took to task the jobs handed to her. You see, at planet
scott
if you knew a certain trade or task, it was for sure you would be
assigned
to some detail you knew little about. That's the way I saw it around
those
times.
Christine took on the challenge of being a technical director, which
is
the proper term for what she did almost everyday. On top of that,
pretty sure she ran other departments and had to cater to Gene Scott
himself. What a chore driven life. Enough said.
Gene was relatively lazy while Christine ran circles around everyone
on and off her award winning horses.
Personally I think God put that horse bug in Gene's ear so that
Christine could be the champion she was meant to be.
Despite being trapped in a cult. selah- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
actualy its studios post here that gives me real pause in my
pursuasion
about christine and being in agreement with emmetts assesment
but the pause is for a synthesis she was to a degree a lady and a
major assett to the ministry as well as an example of dutifull service
and a wife not known to undermine her husband
but like the rest of us that supported even enabled dr.scott to
terrible uncontrolable extreams she was wrong and in truth her
position of privilidge is to be reckoned with this and the coupling of
the threat to the ministry she became in terms of dollars as already
mentioned something like half of it all doc and his church studio
thats rough stuff man i mean what happened where her service and being
an assett to the ministry was reduced down to dollars she could take
with her with no seeming explanation offered up by those that know her
here
just seems like in a way christine made a well timed and quiet escape
however ladylike- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: I cannot even believe anyone even bothered to respond to this
post re Christine Shaw, it has been covered from all sides in afgs
archives. Lazy bones eats has no real interest or else s/he would take
the time to go check it out, or is it really true that scotties can
only parrot and not comprehend a truthful statement or history? Go
ahead loser, take the time and check it out like TF (doubt it, dickwad
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I responded.  I'm sorry.  I'm an asshole.....
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rpbc:
All the more reason I'm an asshole. I'm an asshole and deserve a neck
breaking. An asshole, nothing but an asshole ruining your day by my
very presence.

Whew... anything esle I should add. With so many assholes around here
I'm beginning to feel quite ordinary.... another proof I'm just an
asshole.
rpbc
2011-08-25 20:57:01 UTC
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Post by matt2442
Post by T***@breakthru.com
Post by matt2442
Post by studio
Post by matt2442
I wonder if one or both of them are working for Joe Cortes?
Mick Fleck and Joe Cortes? Hmmmm.
I don't know. I'm just wondering. I'm really hoping that they both
just got the hell away from anything that resembles Gene Scott's
ministry.
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
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rpbc:
There go Emmett. You are dependable and that's hard to improve. If
you ever go soft about anything planetjean I'm calling you on it.
T***@breakthru.com
2011-08-26 20:57:33 UTC
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Post by Emmett
Post by matt2442
Post by T***@breakthru.com
Post by matt2442
Post by studio
Post by matt2442
I wonder if one or both of them are working for Joe Cortes?
Mick Fleck and Joe Cortes? Hmmmm.
I don't know. I'm just wondering. I'm really hoping that they both
just got the hell away from anything that resembles Gene Scott's
ministry.
Hi guys,
Mick used to come to the church as a guest once in awhile, but I would
say as of April I hadn't seen him in about a year.  I never did
interact with him, his star was on the downward spiral when I came
in.  I always felt bad for the guy--hell, no one can be as inept as GS
presented him to be.  Another gentleman I did see sometimes in church
was that really good guitar player, Roger, the one that GS publically
built up and then tore down?  He is still attending an occasional
service, I think.  Pretty sure Mark Travis was long gone by the time I
came in.  Seems a lot of really good people were gone by the time I
joined--also seems like I came in at the worst possible time of the
ministry, the early 2000s.  One thing I have to comment on really
quick, (subject change) is that I noticed whenever almost anyone
speaks of Christine here they seem to have respect for her as a
person.  I have only seen one pic of her and Doc together, but I have
spent a lot of time reading about her time in the ministry, and it's
uncanny how few bad things are said of her.  I think it's 'intrinsic
evidence' of the truth on this site that all of GS's partners were not
universally hated.
I never knew Christine personally, and rarely ever met her back in the
day. There was the one thing I posted where She and Doc were riding in
a golf cart during the SOR banquet in 1990, and Doc made some kind of
comment about the people standing in line for food looking like
"vagrants in a mission line." Christine laughed along with it, and
remembering that has somewhat colored my opinion of her, but I wish
her well and have no ill will towards her today. I hope she is doing
well.
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree. It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now. Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS. One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary. I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years. How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me. It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading. So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry. Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay. The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could. She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
Emmett
2011-08-26 21:31:40 UTC
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Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
Emmett writes:
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".

very long. Birds of a feather flock together.
rpbc
2011-08-27 01:34:45 UTC
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Post by Emmett
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Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
rpbc:
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her. And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it. Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually. It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach. I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive. Have you
ever been seduced? That word has concrete meaning. If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding. Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it. David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up. She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.

But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.
Emmett
2011-08-27 03:10:39 UTC
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Post by Emmett
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Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.
Emmett writes:
My wife claims she seduced me but I know better, I seduced her. :)
I don't know what David or seduction has to do with her, but you can
be
right, she was just a poor lady taken by Dr. jean's BS making
$200,000.00
per year and didn't know or understand anything that was going on.
Loved everyone and smiled all the time and was forced to ride horses.
Yep, you must be right. (I wonder how many paychecks she missed.)
rpbc
2011-08-27 04:16:29 UTC
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Post by Emmett
Post by Emmett
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Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.
My wife claims she seduced me but I know better, I seduced her. :)
I don't know what David or seduction has to do with her, but you can
be
right, she was just a poor lady taken by Dr. jean's BS making
$200,000.00
per year and didn't know or understand anything that was going on.
Loved everyone and smiled all the time and was forced to ride horses.
Yep, you must be right. (I wonder how many paychecks she missed.)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
rpbc:
Aaahhhhh so many things. I remember her on more than one occasion
attempting what would have been quite normal anywhere else...
explaining what had inadvertantly happened when Scott was starting one
of his blowtorch session on someone... she was in the directors seat,
a position to know... and he actually threatened her with 'don't you
dare take his position, with all the intensity he had for others...
when it wasn't taking anyone's position at all, just explaining what
caused what ever it was... nobody's fault kind of thing. She fed
people too when he wasn't around and I never saw her give one of those
'let them eat cake' attitudes and keep in mind there were a number of
absolute assholes around there... the kind if you had them at work
you'd run them the hell off for any number of good reasons. She
found herself in the middle of midnight at noon as did many of us.
Hell... if he had paid me 200K to keep that studio and broadcast
electronics running along with decent hours I'd have done it and
nevermind everything else... at least for a while till the stench and
the realization of what it was overwhelmed me. She was very good at
what she did and in a decent organization probably would have
commanded that kind of money.

But as I've said.... don't change a bit. I love your beside it all
take on things. And... about seducing your wife... have you explained
this to her yet. Maybe she lets you think it. Never
underestimate.... well, you know.
Weatherman
2011-08-27 06:06:17 UTC
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Post by Emmett
Post by Emmett
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Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.
My wife claims she seduced me but I know better, I seduced her. :)
I don't know what David or seduction has to do with her, but you can
be
right, she was just a poor lady taken by Dr. jean's BS making
$200,000.00
per year and didn't know or understand anything that was going on.
Loved everyone and smiled all the time and was forced to ride horses.
Yep, you must be right. (I wonder how many paychecks she missed.)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Aaahhhhh so many things.   I remember her on more than one occasion
attempting what would have been quite normal anywhere else...
explaining what had inadvertantly happened when Scott was starting one
of his blowtorch session on someone... she was in the directors seat,
a position to know... and he actually threatened her with 'don't you
dare take his position,  with all the intensity he had for others...
when it wasn't taking anyone's position at all, just explaining what
caused what ever it was... nobody's fault kind of thing.  She fed
people too when he wasn't around and I never saw her give one of those
'let them eat cake' attitudes and keep in mind there were a number of
absolute assholes around there... the kind if you had them at work
you'd run them the hell off for any number of good reasons.   She
found herself in the middle of midnight at noon as did many of us.
Hell... if he had paid me 200K to keep that studio and broadcast
electronics running along with decent hours I'd have done it and
nevermind everything else... at least for a while till the stench and
the realization of what it was overwhelmed me.  She was very good at
what she did and in a decent organization probably would have
commanded that kind of money.
WM-Thats fine but let me ask then did you know any other folks very
good at what they did and were worth large out in the world....but got
paid shit in comparison?

She was his wife and he apparently let her shine while others got jobs
away from their skill set? And dang if Gene didnt do the same...let
Mel shine while we had to hear about a guy or a number of guys that
had been there a long time and made many sacrfices but were still
messed up in fact emasculated from time to time in public while the
virtues of Kung Foo Mel out on the bike trail was legend, or the great
Riding/Interior decorator lady. Anyway he did follow a patern with
both chicks on some points. She really ended up cutting his nuts off.
I mean a womans got to have her rod....sept Mel so she says.
Gypsie
2011-08-27 07:11:53 UTC
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Post by Weatherman
Post by Emmett
Post by Emmett
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Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.
My wife claims she seduced me but I know better, I seduced her. :)
I don't know what David or seduction has to do with her, but you can
be
right, she was just a poor lady taken by Dr. jean's BS making
$200,000.00
per year and didn't know or understand anything that was going on.
Loved everyone and smiled all the time and was forced to ride horses.
Yep, you must be right. (I wonder how many paychecks she missed.)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Aaahhhhh so many things.   I remember her on more than one occasion
attempting what would have been quite normal anywhere else...
explaining what had inadvertantly happened when Scott was starting one
of his blowtorch session on someone... she was in the directors seat,
a position to know... and he actually threatened her with 'don't you
dare take his position,  with all the intensity he had for others...
when it wasn't taking anyone's position at all, just explaining what
caused what ever it was... nobody's fault kind of thing.  She fed
people too when he wasn't around and I never saw her give one of those
'let them eat cake' attitudes and keep in mind there were a number of
absolute assholes around there... the kind if you had them at work
you'd run them the hell off for any number of good reasons.   She
found herself in the middle of midnight at noon as did many of us.
Hell... if he had paid me 200K to keep that studio and broadcast
electronics running along with decent hours I'd have done it and
nevermind everything else... at least for a while till the stench and
the realization of what it was overwhelmed me.  She was very good at
what she did and in a decent organization probably would have
commanded that kind of money.
WM-Thats fine but let me ask then did you know any other folks very
good at what they did and were worth large out in the world....but got
paid shit in comparison?
She was his wife and he apparently let her shine while others got jobs
away from their skill set? And dang if Gene didnt do the same...let
Mel shine while we had to hear about a guy or a number of guys that
had been there a long time and made many sacrfices but were still
messed up in fact emasculated from time to time in public while the
virtues of Kung Foo Mel out on the bike trail was legend, or the great
Riding/Interior decorator lady. Anyway he did follow a patern with
both chicks on some points. She really ended up cutting his nuts off.
I mean a womans got to have her rod....sept Mel so she says.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: Of course he did WM, doc did his best to get even w/Christine
and tried to make her jealous. If Christine had returned, there would
never have been a missy or the bimbos. And, doc did like to dip into
the same source for his SO, but don't be fooled, he also scanned the
women in his flock for attractive women.

Like those that had seen and done things that only a dead conscience
would allow, when it was time to go, we jest went. If doc and/or staff
did not ban you and doc was not in control of your exit, he got pretty
upset that those left 'after all he did you ya'.

Alot of the talent attracted to doc's ministry were cream of the crop
types (wanting to serve their church and God) when they arrived and
before their brains got so scrambled from being bounced so often And,
they would have been an asset to any outside employment. Problem w/doc
and planet scott was that he would plug someone into a position where
they had no experience or training in. Always intending to keep them
off balance. Black was white and up was down. IMHO this was jest
another excuse for him to abuse and tear people down.

As rpbc sez, Christine was a scottie and had that mindset jest like
everyone else. She simply wasn't willing to stick around any more as
his caretaker as he got older and meaner. missy signed on for that.

Personally, at that time. I would also have taken advantage if it had
been offered. Obviously doc's list of those he favored was a very
short one and basically changed depending on who he deemed demon
possessed at any given time.

Altho many would not agree with this and I acknowledge that there was
much destruction amongst the flock, my giving and what doc did with it
was not a particular issue with me. I believed his giving teaching and
made a commitment (not to doc) to do so. I've always maintained that a
person had to have a separate source of income if they ever wanted to
go on staff (some did but most did not)
Weatherman
2011-08-27 05:49:47 UTC
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Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Well do tell then if you can at what point or points, what issues
began to itch her ass about Gene and being there ect. What did it ever
cost her personally anyway? Did she have a moral crisis at some point
having figured out Gene was a skunk....or something? We have to press
hard here put some meat on them bones otherwise we cant fully measure
Mel really. Maybe she just got to likeing the pool boy then had to go
full measure after discovery and theres an end to it.
rpbc
2011-08-27 07:33:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Weatherman
Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Well do tell then if you can at what point or points, what issues
began to itch her ass about Gene and being there ect. What did it ever
cost her personally anyway? Did she have a moral crisis at some point
having figured out Gene was a skunk....or something? We have to press
hard here put some meat on them bones otherwise we cant fully measure
Mel really. Maybe she just got to likeing the pool boy then had to go
full measure after discovery and theres an end to it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
rpbc:
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left. You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it. I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you. What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway. It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.
studio
2011-08-27 18:44:25 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 27, 12:33 am, rpbc <***@hotmail.com> wrote:

  She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
Post by Weatherman
Post by rpbc
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.-
WM-Well do tell then if you can at what point or points, what issues
began to itch her ass about Gene and being there ect. What did it ever
cost her personally anyway? Did she have a moral crisis at some point
having figured out Gene was a skunk....or something? We have to press
hard here put some meat on them bones otherwise we cant fully measure
Mel really. Maybe she just got to likeing the pool boy then had to go
full measure after discovery and theres an end to it.- Hide quoted text -
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left.  You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it.   I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you.  What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway.  It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.
Secondly, how do you think GS found out about "the other man",
if that part of the story is even true?

Emmett think Christine was the butterfly amongst the cocoons.
Well, metaphorically yes, but from our perspective it was more
like the American soldier in The Deer Hunter. Kept alive only
to play Russian roulette another day. Christine Shaw up!
Emmett
2011-08-27 19:23:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Weatherman
Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Well do tell then if you can at what point or points, what issues
began to itch her ass about Gene and being there ect. What did it ever
cost her personally anyway? Did she have a moral crisis at some point
having figured out Gene was a skunk....or something? We have to press
hard here put some meat on them bones otherwise we cant fully measure
Mel really. Maybe she just got to likeing the pool boy then had to go
full measure after discovery and theres an end to it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left.  You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it.   I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you.  What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway.  It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.
Emmett writes:
The way out is, get caught in bed with the tennis pro.
Yep, she had nothing but class.
studio
2011-08-27 21:51:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Emmett
The way out is, get caught in bed with the tennis pro.
Yep, she had nothing but class.
that tennis pro was cute.....even you'd fuck him Emmett!
rpbc
2011-08-27 22:50:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
The way out is, get caught in bed with the tennis pro.
Yep, she had nothing but class.
that tennis pro was cute.....even you'd fuck him Emmett!
rpbc:
damn.... the jokes are setting in.. you're going to be in rare form
for the gig tonight. Studio enjoys hecklers. That one is funny....
barmaid, another round for me and my friends... give that gentleman
with the smile on his face a chaser to go with it, his name is
Emmett.... we're expecting Christine to join us and believe me when
she arrives that smile will stay on his face. The woman that almost
put Gene Scott in his place. She came closer than any of the men.
rpbc
2011-08-27 22:36:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Emmett
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left.  You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it.   I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you.  What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway.  It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.
The way out is, get caught in bed with the tennis pro.
Yep, she had nothing but class.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
rpbc:
Emmett... I'm ashamed of you... using illogical extremes to make a
case, like a hardball lefty. She had something other than class and I
had something other than good character. We all do except for Jesus
and... pun intended, He wasn't there. I left, she left, lots of us
left. I wish she'd taken half of it with her and shut that place down
with his nose rubbed in it for everybody to see. For you thinking I'm
just being hateful, it might have saved his life... a new start often
does that.
philedelphia
2011-08-28 06:20:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by rpbc
Post by Emmett
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left.  You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it.   I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you.  What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway.  It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.
The way out is, get caught in bed with the tennis pro.
Yep, she had nothing but class.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Emmett... I'm ashamed of you... using illogical extremes to make a
case, like a hardball lefty.  She had something other than class and I
had something other than good character.  We all do except for Jesus
and... pun intended, He wasn't there.  I left, she left, lots of us
left.  I wish she'd taken half of it with her and shut that place down
with his nose rubbed in it for everybody to see.  For you thinking I'm
just being hateful, it might have saved his life... a new start often
does that.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
bs, she was a scottie only in the way most of you were up close and
personal full of pride and elitism from the top to the congregation
and from them to the rest of the unsaved world thats why you presume
the worst even of those longdistance cause ya still havnt got past the
bull shit like ive seen here about christine in comparioson to doc
either their both blowqtorched like hitler and his ole lady
(metaphoricly) or there forgivin or givin a fair assesment bad and
good but this way to go bs is just that bs served up in sugar cakes
just like doc taught ya

you people rerally are ass backward in there all lovngly foulspirited
your approval is crisco flaky
philedelphia
2011-08-28 16:03:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by philedelphia
Post by rpbc
Post by Emmett
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left.  You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it.   I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you.  What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway.  It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.
The way out is, get caught in bed with the tennis pro.
Yep, she had nothing but class.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Emmett... I'm ashamed of you... using illogical extremes to make a
case, like a hardball lefty.  She had something other than class and I
had something other than good character.  We all do except for Jesus
and... pun intended, He wasn't there.  I left, she left, lots of us
left.  I wish she'd taken half of it with her and shut that place down
with his nose rubbed in it for everybody to see.  For you thinking I'm
just being hateful, it might have saved his life... a new start often
does that.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
bs, she was a scottie only in the way most of you were up close and
personal full of pride and elitism from the top to the congregation
and from them to the rest of the unsaved world thats why you presume
the worst even of those longdistance cause ya still havnt got past the
bull shit like ive seen here about christine in comparioson to doc
either their both blowqtorched like hitler and his ole lady
(metaphoricly) or there forgivin or givin a fair assesment bad and
good but this way to go bs is just that bs served up in sugar cakes
just like doc taught ya
you people rerally are ass backward in there all lovngly foulspirited
your approval is crisco flaky- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
"either their both blowtorched like hitler and his ole lady
(metaphoricly) or there forgivin"

thats funny i had to emphasize "metaphoricly" hahahaha one never knows
do one lol ive already laid out my disclaimers :))

Gypsie
2011-08-27 23:48:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Emmett
Post by Weatherman
Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Well do tell then if you can at what point or points, what issues
began to itch her ass about Gene and being there ect. What did it ever
cost her personally anyway? Did she have a moral crisis at some point
having figured out Gene was a skunk....or something? We have to press
hard here put some meat on them bones otherwise we cant fully measure
Mel really. Maybe she just got to likeing the pool boy then had to go
full measure after discovery and theres an end to it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left.  You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it.   I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you.  What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway.  It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.
The way out is, get caught in bed with the tennis pro.
Yep, she had nothing but class.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: see neow there ya go Em. Why are you assuming she 'got
caught'? Did it ever occur to you that mebbe she jest plain and simply
enjoyed herself and mebbe wanted to rub doc's little limp dick in his
face? Why else chose Anguilla to do this, afterall it is such a small
community and doc sure was making his over importance known at that
time?

btw why are you being so combative with us here at this point in time?
You've been hanging here with lots of us for some time neow. I
thought you had set aside judging us that left for our own reasons or,
have come full circle?
geraldkrug
2011-08-28 03:02:45 UTC
Permalink
No-one is worth $200,000 a year unless you keep having to go to the
doctor to get those pills for horse cock n' mouth disease.
Gypsie
2011-08-28 03:08:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Emmett
Post by Weatherman
Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Well do tell then if you can at what point or points, what issues
began to itch her ass about Gene and being there ect. What did it ever
cost her personally anyway? Did she have a moral crisis at some point
having figured out Gene was a skunk....or something? We have to press
hard here put some meat on them bones otherwise we cant fully measure
Mel really. Maybe she just got to likeing the pool boy then had to go
full measure after discovery and theres an end to it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left.  You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it.   I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you.  What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway.  It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.
The way out is, get caught in bed with the tennis pro.
Yep, she had nothing but class.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: see neow there ya go Em. Why are you assuming she 'got
caught'? Did it ever occur to you that mebbe she jest plain and simply
enjoyed herself and mebbe wanted to rub doc's little limp dick in his
face? Why else chose Anguilla to do this, afterall it is such a small
community and doc sure was making his over importance known at that
time?
Emmett
2011-08-28 05:19:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gypsie
Post by Emmett
Post by Weatherman
Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Well do tell then if you can at what point or points, what issues
began to itch her ass about Gene and being there ect. What did it ever
cost her personally anyway? Did she have a moral crisis at some point
having figured out Gene was a skunk....or something? We have to press
hard here put some meat on them bones otherwise we cant fully measure
Mel really. Maybe she just got to likeing the pool boy then had to go
full measure after discovery and theres an end to it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left.  You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it.   I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you.  What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway.  It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.
The way out is, get caught in bed with the tennis pro.
Yep, she had nothing but class.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: see neow there ya go Em. Why are you assuming she 'got
caught'? Did it ever occur to you that mebbe she jest plain and simply
enjoyed herself and mebbe wanted to rub doc's little limp dick in his
face? Why else chose Anguilla to do this, afterall it is such a small
community and doc sure was making his over importance known at that
time?
Emmett writes:
It's very rare that someone gets caught the first time so I assume
she was fucking every Tom, Dick and Harry while she was
holding Dr. jean's hand. What a blow to Dr. jean and his
great sex appeal. His wife was screwing everyone but him.
BUT SHE HAD CLASS. LOL
Gypsie
2011-08-28 07:53:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Emmett
Post by Gypsie
Post by Emmett
Post by Weatherman
Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Well do tell then if you can at what point or points, what issues
began to itch her ass about Gene and being there ect. What did it ever
cost her personally anyway? Did she have a moral crisis at some point
having figured out Gene was a skunk....or something? We have to press
hard here put some meat on them bones otherwise we cant fully measure
Mel really. Maybe she just got to likeing the pool boy then had to go
full measure after discovery and theres an end to it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left.  You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it.   I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you.  What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway.  It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.
The way out is, get caught in bed with the tennis pro.
Yep, she had nothing but class.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: see neow there ya go Em. Why are you assuming she 'got
caught'? Did it ever occur to you that mebbe she jest plain and simply
enjoyed herself and mebbe wanted to rub doc's little limp dick in his
face? Why else chose Anguilla to do this, afterall it is such a small
community and doc sure was making his over importance known at that
time?
It's very rare that someone gets caught the first time so I assume
she was fucking every Tom, Dick and Harry while she was
holding Dr. jean's hand. What a blow to Dr. jean and his
great sex appeal. His wife was screwing everyone but him.
BUT SHE HAD CLASS. LOL- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
gypsie: Frankly Em, Limp dick doc was not a secret, perhaps this is
why he overcompensated by sooooo much crowing and with the virtual
bevvy of women around him that were willing to agree with his
exaggerated (sp?) sexual prowess on camera and behind the scenes after
it was apparent that Christine was not coming back.

Even using Hugh Hefner's Playboy mansion as the backdrop for his
camera 'shoots' was jest another example of something he needed to
prove.

Apparently doc had lots of insecurities re his own sexuality. Even to
the point of replacing his personal security men with all women. He
said that he did not want some hotel clerk thinking he was queer when
one of the security guys slept in the same room w/him

Also I had postulated that the main reason doc required his flock to
applaud so loudly and long at LAUC when his women entered and left was
to validate his claims re himself. And, there was a reason why doc
needed to have the female genitalia, porn and his pix painted into
the marbling at his 'cathedral'. It was no accident that some referred
to LAUC as doc's erection.

Even tho Christine apparently did sleep w/ the tennis player in
Anguilla, doc was still willing to bring her back so go figure heh?
mebbe she was as you say? I don't know if she wasn't or she was. I
wasn't there.

This is jest another example of the upside down world of planet scott
lol
philedelphia
2011-08-28 06:06:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Emmett
Post by Weatherman
Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Well do tell then if you can at what point or points, what issues
began to itch her ass about Gene and being there ect. What did it ever
cost her personally anyway? Did she have a moral crisis at some point
having figured out Gene was a skunk....or something? We have to press
hard here put some meat on them bones otherwise we cant fully measure
Mel really. Maybe she just got to likeing the pool boy then had to go
full measure after discovery and theres an end to it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left.  You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it.   I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you.  What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway.  It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.
The way out is, get caught in bed with the tennis pro.
Yep, she had nothing but class.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
oh your battin a thousand emmett go boy lol
Weatherman
2011-08-28 12:01:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Weatherman
Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Well do tell then if you can at what point or points, what issues
began to itch her ass about Gene and being there ect. What did it ever
cost her personally anyway? Did she have a moral crisis at some point
having figured out Gene was a skunk....or something? We have to press
hard here put some meat on them bones otherwise we cant fully measure
Mel really. Maybe she just got to likeing the pool boy then had to go
full measure after discovery and theres an end to it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left.  You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it.   I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you.  What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway.  It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Not being sarcastic...just thought it was funny how he talked about
emasculating other males and lost his sack to a woman. Man he cried
like a baby.......pride...maybe he loved her.

Ok yea he had little ol me bugged up good. What we have here is a
large scale control freak. So yea I can see where there may be some
fear on her part of several sorts but at least she was public and so
Gene had to watch what he was doing. Just think of having inside
knowlege, real knowlege, and being out here somewhere totally
unprotected. Its not a good feeling. Her public profile gives her some
protection. I personaly advised him to let her go and give her what
she wanted. I always thought his preaching he did around those days
were his best. There used to be a tape set "wine form the presses" or
something cut from those days.

There is another way to look at this.....she had her ass kissed....she
made good money and in the end whent in for the big cash out. She
never really was with him in heart. It just couldnt have been that bad
for her. If she just wanted out well then she just wanted out.
philedelphia
2011-08-28 15:29:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Weatherman
Post by Weatherman
Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Well do tell then if you can at what point or points, what issues
began to itch her ass about Gene and being there ect. What did it ever
cost her personally anyway? Did she have a moral crisis at some point
having figured out Gene was a skunk....or something? We have to press
hard here put some meat on them bones otherwise we cant fully measure
Mel really. Maybe she just got to likeing the pool boy then had to go
full measure after discovery and theres an end to it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left.  You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it.   I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you.  What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway.  It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Not being sarcastic...just thought it was funny how he talked about
emasculating other males and lost his sack to a woman. Man he cried
like a baby.......pride...maybe he loved her.
Ok yea he had little ol me bugged up good. What we have here is a
large scale control freak. So yea I can see where there may be some
fear on her part of several sorts but at least she was public and so
Gene had to watch what he was doing. Just think of having inside
knowlege, real knowlege, and being out here somewhere totally
unprotected. Its not a good feeling. Her public profile gives her some
protection. I personaly advised him to let her go and give her what
she wanted. I always thought his preaching he did around those days
were his best. There used to be a tape set "wine form the presses" or
something cut from those days.
There is another way to look at this.....she had her ass kissed....she
made good money and in the end whent in for the big cash out. She
never really was with him in heart. It just couldnt have been that bad
for her. If she just wanted out well then she just wanted out.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
wm is well balanced makes his power pursuasive ya'll need to follow
his example my opinion but ya gotts empty some of your self out

whatever, im standin next to him when jesus comes lol
philedelphia
2011-08-28 15:59:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by philedelphia
Post by Weatherman
Post by Weatherman
Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Well do tell then if you can at what point or points, what issues
began to itch her ass about Gene and being there ect. What did it ever
cost her personally anyway? Did she have a moral crisis at some point
having figured out Gene was a skunk....or something? We have to press
hard here put some meat on them bones otherwise we cant fully measure
Mel really. Maybe she just got to likeing the pool boy then had to go
full measure after discovery and theres an end to it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left.  You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it.   I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you.  What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway.  It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Not being sarcastic...just thought it was funny how he talked about
emasculating other males and lost his sack to a woman. Man he cried
like a baby.......pride...maybe he loved her.
Ok yea he had little ol me bugged up good. What we have here is a
large scale control freak. So yea I can see where there may be some
fear on her part of several sorts but at least she was public and so
Gene had to watch what he was doing. Just think of having inside
knowlege, real knowlege, and being out here somewhere totally
unprotected. Its not a good feeling. Her public profile gives her some
protection. I personaly advised him to let her go and give her what
she wanted. I always thought his preaching he did around those days
were his best. There used to be a tape set "wine form the presses" or
something cut from those days.
There is another way to look at this.....she had her ass kissed....she
made good money and in the end whent in for the big cash out. She
never really was with him in heart. It just couldnt have been that bad
for her. If she just wanted out well then she just wanted out.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
wm is well balanced makes his power pursuasive ya'll need to follow
his example my opinion but ya gotts empty some of your self out
whatever, im standin next to him when jesus comes lol- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
gettin all this TroubledFaith?

i suppose you've been sitten there for a day or two just watchin this
entire discussion unfold (shoulda been) in stark contradiction to the
very observation you made about christine and the harmony in afgs
toward her and how that validates that we dont just blowtorch
everthing and anything or however you put it.

understandsomethin i asked you if you were aware of how god uses
conversation to speak through and to each of us. just gotta listen
and be aware of his unseen (infered) influence just look at the many
streams of meaning and and destruction, of opinions, pursuasions and
inclinations that were entered upon over this one seemingly benevolent
and retired subject dealing with christine.

bringing it to the light reveals the truth of it, of the person that
brought it, also reveals the place its happening in and who or what
may be on its periphery and thus conversation flows in all these
directions revealing more than we intended for it was what god
intended

gptl
philedelphia
2011-08-28 16:14:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Weatherman
Post by Weatherman
Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Well do tell then if you can at what point or points, what issues
began to itch her ass about Gene and being there ect. What did it ever
cost her personally anyway? Did she have a moral crisis at some point
having figured out Gene was a skunk....or something? We have to press
hard here put some meat on them bones otherwise we cant fully measure
Mel really. Maybe she just got to likeing the pool boy then had to go
full measure after discovery and theres an end to it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The same issues that started to itch everyone's ass that left.  You
can be as sarcastic as you like but I rather admire her for using her
power with him.... he sure as hell asked it, as in had it coming.
And something else.... she practically had to run to get away from
it.   I thought you were bugged, had his men watching you... little ol
you.  What more someone with inside knowledge, real inside knowledge
of what went on there but her and she wants out.... how do you get out
of something like that anyway.  It might not be that easy to simply
walk away.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-Not being sarcastic...just thought it was funny how he talked about
emasculating other males and lost his sack to a woman. Man he cried
like a baby.......pride...maybe he loved her.
Ok yea he had little ol me bugged up good. What we have here is a
large scale control freak. So yea I can see where there may be some
fear on her part of several sorts but at least she was public and so
Gene had to watch what he was doing. Just think of having inside
knowlege, real knowlege, and being out here somewhere totally
unprotected. Its not a good feeling. Her public profile gives her some
protection. I personaly advised him to let her go and give her what
she wanted. I always thought his preaching he did around those days
were his best. There used to be a tape set "wine form the presses" or
something cut from those days.
There is another way to look at this.....she had her ass kissed....she
made good money and in the end whent in for the big cash out. She
never really was with him in heart. It just couldnt have been that bad
for her. If she just wanted out well then she just wanted out.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
sk
wine from the presses? never heard this dont think.. can you quik
assess any of it for me kind sir?
studio
2011-08-27 18:10:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.
Well, in defense of all us cult minded losers........
What do you think Emmett is doing here with us AFGS'rs?

Let me see...a famous quote comes to mind,
Birds of a feather.........hmmmm.

Emmett is also poisoned by that seduction you talk about rpbc.
His is just like surfkrow's observation, from a distance.
But he's with us through thick and thin. Cheering us on
and panicking when google groups signs off for a while.

Yep, good ol' Emmett. A true scottie under wraps!
Emmett
2011-08-27 19:12:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.
Well, in defense of all us cult minded losers........
What do you think Emmett is doing here with us AFGS'rs?
Let me see...a famous quote comes to mind,
Birds of a feather.........hmmmm.
Emmett is also poisoned by that seduction you talk about rpbc.
His is just like surfkrow's observation, from a distance.
But he's with us through thick and thin. Cheering us on
and panicking when google groups signs off for a while.
Yep, good ol' Emmett. A true scottie under wraps!
Emmett writes:
If you go back to my beginning here, I came to set the
prisoners free.
studio
2011-08-27 21:49:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Emmett
Post by studio
Post by Emmett
                                snip
Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
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Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.
Well, in defense of all us cult minded losers........
What do you think Emmett is doing here with us AFGS'rs?
Let me see...a famous quote comes to mind,
Birds of a feather.........hmmmm.
Emmett is also poisoned by that seduction you talk about rpbc.
His is just like surfkrow's observation, from a distance.
But he's with us through thick and thin. Cheering us on
and panicking when google groups signs off for a while.
Yep, good ol' Emmett. A true scottie under wraps!
If you go back to my beginning here, I came to set the
prisoners free.
I knew that beard looked familiar!
rpbc
2011-08-27 22:39:13 UTC
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All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
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I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.
Well, in defense of all us cult minded losers........
What do you think Emmett is doing here with us AFGS'rs?
Let me see...a famous quote comes to mind,
Birds of a feather.........hmmmm.
Emmett is also poisoned by that seduction you talk about rpbc.
His is just like surfkrow's observation, from a distance.
But he's with us through thick and thin. Cheering us on
and panicking when google groups signs off for a while.
Yep, good ol' Emmett. A true scottie under wraps!
If you go back to my beginning here, I came to set the
prisoners free.- Hide quoted text -
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rpbc:
And you've done a great job of it. Really. I love the way you
handled flying monkeys.
Weatherman
2011-08-28 12:07:26 UTC
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Post by Emmett
All those "lower class" people that supported
Dr. jean with their hard earned money, time and love were just a joke
to the both of them. More like the lower class was despised for their
love and faithfulness to Dr. jean and Christine. It's no wonder Dr.
jean
had trouble sleeping at night.
How really, really sad.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I agree.  It is sad that anyone would laugh at other people's
sacrifices all the way to the bank, but indeed it does seem this was
the case back then as it is now.  Some great reasons were given here
as to why she wasn't as universally hated as MS.  One thing, though, I
have to mention her 200k salary.  I think I read she got that amount
for a number of years.  How she or GS or anyone could justify that
salary on the backs of ever-toiling, homeless, sick and
disengfranchised Scott-slaves amazes me.  It was one of the things
early on that made me mad enough to keep reading.  So she probably
netted about 10k a month while many people lost families and sanity
and shelter to the GS ministry.  Back in the 80s that was more than a
decent take-home pay.  The horse thing also kind of explains why MS
got rid of the horses as soon as she could.  She probably hated living
in the glare of being compared in any manner to Christine.
It's interesting that some here seem to believe that Christine was
above it all and just an innocent player. She was just as big a
thief and phoney as Dr. jean. The only difference was, she walked
around with a smile on her face while spitting on and enjoying the
suffering of the abused workers. You guys can make excuses
for her all you want but I don't buy any of them. At least
Dr. jean despised his people on camera, she waited for the
cameras to be off. Righteous and just people don't associate,
socialize or live with liars, thieves and criminals.
As the saying goes, "birds of a feather flock together".
very long. Birds of a feather flock together.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well... the difference is Emmett... I knew her.  And while a scottie I
experienced times of being in a superior position to others suffering
while finding, or excepting rationale for it.  Hell... my work allows
me to take a superior position with people who pay for my expertise
and I take full advantage of it, usually.  It's business, if they
don't want to pay for what I do there are others they can approach.  I
know... it's a church and all that makes it different but it wasn't a
church, it was a cult and the attraction was very seductive.  Have you
ever been seduced?  That word has concrete meaning.  If you've ever
been seduced then looked back on it the whole thing seems really silly
but not at the time.... seduction is blinding.  Hell... love of
staying alive above all other things is seductive.. sell one's promise
in God for a bowl of soup... the bible is full of it.  David and that
women taking an open air shower, and the follow up in that story....
had the husband faithful servent of the king sent to mortal combat to
cover it up.   She was a scottie like the rest of us and that was her
position in it.... she got out of there too, like the rest of us.
But... as always, you're absolute unrelenting position is not only
appreciated, it's needed.
Well, in defense of all us cult minded losers........
What do you think Emmett is doing here with us AFGS'rs?
Let me see...a famous quote comes to mind,
Birds of a feather.........hmmmm.
Emmett is also poisoned by that seduction you talk about rpbc.
His is just like surfkrow's observation, from a distance.
But he's with us through thick and thin. Cheering us on
and panicking when google groups signs off for a while.
Yep, good ol' Emmett. A true scottie under wraps!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WM-In this case it could just be a matter of prospective. We all need
checked sometimes. Just got to see if the one can hold up to the same
sort of kicking the other is getting to keep it real.
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