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Waz Zappening: Syria vs. Saudi Arabia = Shia vs. Suni
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H8n S8n
2013-09-11 06:01:08 UTC
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It's a little complicated to understand the Middle East w/o a scorecard,
which I have posted here multiple times. Each Islamic country (primarily) has
a "Majority" & "Minority" Sect/branch of Islam. They all hate each other, sorta like The Hatfields vs. The McCoys. They're Sect is the right one, and if you are not part of their sect? You are wrong, and should be pushing up Daisy's, 6ft. underground.

So?
Fearless Leader bowed-down to Sheik-yer-boo-tee of Saudi Arabia because they are both "Shia". If you research Saudi, you will find references that say "Whabi"
which still is true. Research Syria and you will find sect "Alawi" which is
"Suni". As I previously indicated? It's complicated.

So II:
Fearless Leader was raised under a (missing) father who was Shia. In Judeizm(sp)
they are Matriarchal. If your Matriarch was Jewish, you are 2. Surprise, Surprise,
Surprise! Islam is opposite. If your Patriarchal is Muslim (sect-specific)you are that one-sect.

So III:
Sheik-yer-boo-tee = Shia & Fearless Leader is Shia?
As they say in Islam: The Enemy of My Enemy is My Friend.
Which easily splanes(sp) why Sheik-Yer-Ya-Ya's is willing to step up to the plate, and fiance the love-gifts from Mr. Peace Prize, who will attack another
Middle Eastern country that has a primary religion of Islam. Go it?

H8n note:
We have lost every battle in the past SEVEN DECADES.
Maybe we can break our losing streak?

H8n note II:
Every time I see the same 10 second video of people on the ground, which
PROVES Syria sprayed their own people?
I am reminded of the video of a:
Bird flys in air, Doc shoots in Air, Bird bounces off ground,
PROVES? Doc shot bird! Fearless Leader says "Facts are facts"
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Syria
Main article: Islam in Syria
Syria is approximately three quarters Sunni,[133] but its government is predominately Alawi, a Shia sect that makes up less than 15% of the population. Under Hafez al-Assad, Alawi dominated the Baath Arab Socialist Party, a secular Arab nationalist party which has ruled Syria under a state of emergency since 1963 and has not tolerated any opposition. Alawi are often considered a form of Shia Islam, that differs somewhat from the larger Twelver Shia sect.[134]

A very serious 20th century conflict in Syria with sectarian religious overtones was that between the Alawi-dominated al-Assad regime and the Islamist Sunni Muslim Brotherhood, culminating with the 1982 Hama massacre. An estimated 10,000 to 40,000 Syrians, mostly civilians, were killed by Syrian military in the city. During the uprising, the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood attacked military cadets at an artillery school in Aleppo, performed car bomb attacks in Damascus, as well as bomb attacks against the government and its officials, including Hafez al-Assad himself, and had killed several hundred.

How much of the conflict was sparked by Sunni versus Shia divisions and how much by Islamism versus secular-Arab-nationalism, is in question, but according to scholar Vali Nasr the failure of the Ayatollah Khomeini and the Islamic Republic of Iran to support the Muslim Brotherhood against the Baathists "earned [Khomeini] the Brotherhood's lasting contempt." It proved to the satisfaction of the Brotherhood that sectarian loyalty trumped Islamist solidarity for Khomeini and eliminated whatever appeal Khomeini might have had to the MB movement as a pan-Islamic leader.[135]

The 2011-2012 Syrian uprising has reawakened the sectarian tensions in Syria, gradually becoming a full-blown sectarian strife between the Alawi dominated Army and government vs. Sunni rebels and former members of the regular Syrian Army.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia%E2%80%93Sunni_relations
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and if'n ewe made it this far?
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What you didn’t know about Syria
Assyria was the world’s first empire.

Around the year 2371, as related by Peter BetBasoo, the Assyrian Empire under Sargon of Akkad absorbed the original Sumerian civilization of the Mesopotamian Valley.

The oldest piece of literature on Earth was written in the original Assyrian language of Akkadian, the Epic of Gilgamesh, around 2500 BC.

The ancient Assyrian city of Nineveh, near present-day Mosul, became a major religious/cultural center by 1800 BC, around the time of Abraham.

In 760 BC, the Old Testament prophet Jonah preached in Nineveh and it repented.

In 727-721 BC, King Shalmaneser V ruled the Neo-Assyrian Empire and carried Israel’s ten northern tribes into captivity.

King Sennacherib, 705-681 BC, made Nineveh one of the most magnificent capitals in the world. The word “Arab” is actually the Assyrian word “westerner,” first used by King Sennacherib in telling his conquest of the “ma’rabayeh”–westerners.

Assyrians and Babylonians laid down the fundamental basis of mathematics, the Pythagorean Theorem, the concept of zero and designed parabolic domes and arches.

Beginning in 538 BC, for the next seven centuries Assyria was ruled by other empires: Persian Achaemenid, Macedonian (Alexander the Great), Seleucid, Parthian Arascid, Roman and Sassanid.

Greeks began shortening the name to “Syria.”

The new lingua franca for Syria was the Aramaic language, in use at the time of Christ and still in use by Christians in the small Syrian village of Ma’loula, which was overrun by rebels this week.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/10/what-you-didnt-know-about-syria/#ixzz2eYotFqYb
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R U still reading?

The rebels we have been supporting have been slaughtering Christians
by the boxcar-load all year, up to this week 9/8/13. Sometimes they give them
a chance to "repent" they say they lied, and off with their head with a
frame-saw or sword. No mention in the Presstitute Lame-Stream Media.

I have posted here before:
I am looking for Feast of Trumpets 2015

Question:
What did the boy say at the Bar Mitzvah?

Answer:
It won't be long now. . . ..

I'm H8n S8n !
H8n S8n
2013-09-11 07:55:31 UTC
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RT reporting:
'Footage of chemical attack in Syria is fraud'
H8n note:
Does that mean Doc did NOT shoot the bird that bounced off the ground?
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There is proof the footage of the alleged chemical attack in Syria was fabricated, Mother Agnes Mariam el-Salib, mother superior of St. James Monastery in Qara, Syria, told RT. She says she is about to submit her findings to the UN.

Mother Agnes, a catholic nun, who has been living in Syria for 20 years and has been reporting actively on what has been going on in the war-ravaged country, says she carefully studied the video featuring allegedly victims of the chemical weapons attack in the Syrian village of Guta in August and now questions its authenticity.

In her interview with RT, Mother Agnes doubts so much footage could have been taken in so little time, and asks where parents of the supposedly dead children are. She promises to send her report to the UN.

The nun is indignant with the world media for apparently turning a blind eye to the Latakia massacre by rebel extremists, which left 500 civilians including women and children dead.

Russia’s Foreign Ministry has called on the international community to pay attention to revelations made by Mother Agnes Mariam el-Salib.
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http://rt.com/op-edge/mother-chemical-attack-footage-fraud-509/
m***@yahoo.com
2013-09-11 10:23:31 UTC
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III: Sheik-yer-boo-tee =
Lol...
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2013-09-11 19:09:23 UTC
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Post by H8n S8n
I'm H8n S8n !
Some of your facts are wrong.
You must have been listening to The Who when you were young.
H8n S8n
2013-09-12 02:41:30 UTC
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yer wrong about my facts
I forgive you
H8n S8n
2013-09-12 02:44:21 UTC
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Rev. Jones arrested on way to burn Qurans in Polk County, Fl

http://tbo.com/news/breaking-news/rev-jones-arrested-on-way-to-burn-qurans-in-polk-county-20130911/

MULBERRY — It wasn’t a jihadist or suicide bomber who stopped the Rev. Terry Jones from torching nearly 3,000 Qurans on the 12th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. It was the long arm of the law.



Jones had planned to burn 2,998 copies of the Muslim holy book – one for each victim of the Sept. 11 attacks -- in Loyce E. Harpe Park, just north of Mulberry at 5 p.m. Wednesday.



Supporters gathered, but Jones never arrived.



That’s because at 4:58 p.m., the 61-year-old pastor was pulled over by sheriff’s deputies a couple of miles away. He was a passenger in a pickup truck driven by Marvin Wayne Sapp, 44, an associate pastor in Jones’ Dove World Outreach Center.



The truck towed a large, smoker-style grill that Jones was going to use as an incinerator. In the smoker were the condemned Qurans.



Some of the books were soaked in kerosene, said Fran Ingram, spokeswoman for the church. The Polk County Sheriff’s Office arrested Jones on felony charges of unlawful conveyance of fuel and open display of a firearm.



Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said deputies saw Jones at a McDonalds in Mulberry and watched as he doused the books with kerosene on his way to the park.



“He was told that if he was going to come to Polk County and violate the law, he would be going to jail,” the sheriff said at a news conference Wednesday night.



The sheriff said dumping kerosene onto the books presented a hazardous situation. “He was potentially driving a bomb around if he had gotten into a crash.”



Judd said Sapp was charged with several civil traffic violations, including towing a trailer with no lights, safety chain or tag.



Deputies seized the 1998 Chevrolet pickup, the smoker and the Qurans, Judd said. All will be held in evidence until the case is resolved. He said he was unsure what would happen to the holy books then.



If they were destroyed by the kerosene, Judd said, deputies would consult with local Muslim imams to see how to properly dispose of them.



Some supporters cried foul.



“I think it was a set-up,” said Lakeland resident Bill Berry, who came to the park to support Jones. “That’s bull. Whether you agree with the man or not, he has the right to protest.”



A couple dozen people, mostly in support of the fiery protest, had shown up at the park. Some, like Berry, later drove to the spot where Jones was taken into custody, in front of the Mulberry Pharmacy.



Normally, a backer of Judd, who has a reputation as a strict law-and-order sheriff, Berry said: “He made the wrong call on this. You have to let Americans do what they want to protest things.”



Jones, whose 15-member Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville enraged Muslims around the globe in 2010 when he announced he would burn a copy of the Islamic holy book, had planned this year to make a big splash, torching 2,998 Qurans in the county park.



As soon as he announced the event, problems began to arise.



To stage such an event, he needed a permit from the county, but he never applied for one.



“We have tried to file for permits,” Jones said in an interview last week, “but we feel that a permit is just an excuse to turn us down.”



County officials vowed that the public spectacle in their park would not take place, not because of the nature of the event, but because Jones lacked the required permit. Mianne Nelson, spokeswoman for the Polk County Commission, said last week that Jones never notified anyone in county government of his plans to use county property.



Jones remained focused on carrying through with the event, even after Army Gen. Lloyd Austin III, commander of the U.S. Central Command headquartered at MacDill Air Force Base, called Jones this week and asked him to cancel the book burning.



Austin told the preacher he was concerned such an event would be disrespectful to Muslims and put innocent civilians and U.S. military service men and women at risk.



Jones would not relent, saying he expected as many as 200 people to show up to the Quran-burning, including protesters.



He never got there Wednesday afternoon.



As soon as Jones got to downtown Mulberry, the pickup he was in was pulled over, said Ingram, who was following Jones in another vehicle.



“They were respectful of Dr. Jones,” she said, “but they put handcuffs on him.”



She believes the plan was to never allow Jones to reach the park.



“Of course,” she said. “I don’t think the U.S. government wanted us to burn Qurans. They were looking for a reason to arrest him.”



Jones first Quran burning three years ago drew the attention of then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who along with military leaders urged Jones not to go through with the stunt, saying it would endanger U.S. troops in Afghanistan and across the Middle East.



Jones ended up only setting one Quran on fire that time. Since then, he has held mock trials with the Quran and the Muslim prophet Muhammad as defendants and found them guilty of various crimes.
H8n S8n
2013-09-12 02:49:46 UTC
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I don't have to prove you are wrong about my facts
All I have to do is post it, which makes me right, and you wrong

Where is VD mentioned in the article I posted.
You posted "I bet he had something to do with it"
"bet" is all you have, beside a cartridge full of blanks

You cannot prove anything

You said "Everyone has a phone with a camera"

Everyone except for yourself?
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2013-09-12 05:35:37 UTC
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Post by H8n S8n
I don't have to prove you are wrong about my facts
All I have to do is post it, which makes me right, and you wrong
Where is VD mentioned in the article I posted.
You posted "I bet he had something to do with it"
"bet" is all you have, beside a cartridge full of blanks
You cannot prove anything
You said "Everyone has a phone with a camera"
Everyone except for yourself?
I'm old school. No need for a camera like that.
I have a pager.
H8n S8n
2013-09-12 03:09:43 UTC
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*note to mthr:
Sheik Yerbouti Side One - Frank Zappa - YouTube


Note to Water Boy: Step up to the plate

And post the links to the documentation the reflect:
"Some of your facts are wrong."

Or?
Go fetch a bucket of water
Whichever you are more qualified for
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Washington rejected a permit for Patriot Veterans to march this year,
after 11 years of permits to march on nine-eleven. However?
The Muslims were granted a permit
H8n S8n
2013-09-12 03:28:00 UTC
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forgot to post this earlier
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The Syria researcher whose Wall Street Journal op-ed piece was cited by Secretary of State John Kerry and Sen. John McCain during congressional hearings about the use of force has been fired from the Institute for the Study of War for lying about having a Ph.D., the group announced on Wednesday.

“The Institute for the Study of War has learned and confirmed that, contrary to her representations, Ms. Elizabeth O’Bagy does not in fact have a Ph.D. degree from Georgetown University,” the institute said in a statement. “ISW has accordingly terminated Ms. O’Bagy’s employment, effective immediately.”
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http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/wall-street-journal-elizabeth-obagy-fired-96637.html?ml=po_r
rpbc
2013-09-13 01:39:50 UTC
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Post by H8n S8n
forgot to post this earlier
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The Syria researcher whose Wall Street Journal op-ed piece was cited by Secretary of State John Kerry and Sen. John McCain during congressional hearings about the use of force has been fired from the Institute for the Study of War for lying about having a Ph.D., the group announced on Wednesday.
“The Institute for the Study of War has learned and confirmed that, contrary to her representations, Ms. Elizabeth O’Bagy does not in fact have a Ph.D. degree from Georgetown University,” the institute said in a statement. “ISW has accordingly terminated Ms. O’Bagy’s employment, effective immediately.”
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http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/wall-street-journal-elizabeth-obagy-fired-96637.html?ml=po_r
rpbc:
Best to get to the point HS. A decade or so ago it was Gorby! Gorby! A chant by the left. Now in an ironic turn it's Putin. For the conspiracy minded both are KGB... and they are. Still, would love to hear these words from an American president, instead a KGB official is speaking earnestly to the American people while chastising a black racist masquerading as a Marxist ideologue occupying the White House. For those with an eye to see let them see, for those with an ear to hear let them hear...

By the way Vlidimir, while I understand your reference I am not dumb.

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By Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin

How do I put this politely? You Americans are dumb. Today, Russia and America are fighting each other over fighting the Muslim radicals. Instead, we should be uniting to crush these violent Islamists, once and for all.

You Americans want to remove my ally, the Syrian leader Bashar Al-Assad. To borrow a phrase from your John F. Kennedy, Assad may be a son-of-a-bitch, but he’s my son-of-a-bitch.

So if you want to destroy him, what are you going to give me in return? If your answer is, “We will give you nothing,” well, why would I ever agree to that? That’s not negotiation, that’s dictation; it’s a return to the bad Yeltsin days, when Holy Mother Russia was pushed into the mud like a used whore.

Look, I’ll be the first to say that Obama’s “red line” comment was dumb. It’s obvious he hadn’t thought it through; one can see it in the words he used to express his policy. He said that the “red line” would be crossed if “a whole bunch” of chemical weapons were used. What kind of language is that? How does one quantify a “whole bunch”? This is the President of the High-and-Mighty United States, and he’s talking like a schoolboy? All for this silliness over sarin in Syria?

Do I think that Assad did it? Gassed those people? I don’t know; I’ve never asked him. He’s certainly capable of it, and yet only the Americans think that the case against Assad is a “slam dunk.” Everyone else agrees that the case is murky. Everyone else follows the first rule of intelligence-gathering: Consider the source--namely, the pro-rebel media. In this instance, the rebels were losing, and then they got “gassed”--and now Uncle Sam is rushing to their side. How convenient.

The Romans, who knew something about both imperialism and trickery, always asked, cui bono--who benefits? Well, the beneficiaries in this episode are the rebels--also known as Al Qaeda. Way to go, Americans!

So let’s check some other news items: Here’s a June 6 item from a Turkish newspaper reporting on “the case of Syrian rebels who were seized on the Turkish-Syrian border with two kilograms of sarin.” And it’s not just the Turks: Carla Del Ponte, the Swiss-born former UN Prosecutor for War Crime Tribunals, has echoed those same charges against the rebels. They’re the bad guys!

Yet could this evidence against the rebels all be Russian disinformation? Hey, we’re good, but not that good.

Meanwhile, go ahead: Look for this information in your mainstream American media--your so-called “free press.” You can barely find it. Yankee lapdog reporters will cover everything that Obama says, and everything that John McCain says, but they won’t send reporters to warzones to go and actually figure out what happened.

Nor will American “presstitutes” remind their people of their own country’s history of helping the Iraqis use poison gas, all the time, in the 80s.

Yes, American reporters are sheep. They try to figure out what Obama wants them to write, and then they write it. Or if Obama doesn’t have a clear line on some topic--which is often--they look over the shoulder of the reporter next to them and copy that. Like I said, sheep.

The result is a herd mentality, showing no understanding of what true necessity truly looks like.

Here’s an example of a real “red line”: It’s June 24, 1812, and Napoleon Bonaparte, having conquered all of continental Europe, is now leading a half-million soldiers across the Neman River, invading Russia, heading straight for Moscow. Six months later, Napoleon retreats in disastrous defeat, but only after he burns our sacred capital and leaves 200,000 Russians dead in battle. Now that’s a red-line situation.

But even the Czars, those blockheads, weren’t dumb enough to send Russian forces halfway around the world because someone wasn’t being nice to someone else.

So in my time, I can hardly get worked up over Assad using poison gas--if he did. Dead is dead, I say. In any case, Assad is adhering to the first rule of a leader: Stay in power. And so you do what it takes.

In fact, I’m not against gas warfare; I’m for gas warfare, if that’s what it takes. For example, I would love to gas the Chechens--all 1.2 million of them. They are like cockroaches, murderous Muslim cockroaches, and if the Chechens had done to Americans what they have done to Russians, maybe the US public would want to join with us. Oh wait, they have: The Boston Bombers, those Tsarnaev brothers, were Chechens. You took them in--against our advice. You put them on welfare for a decade, ignored our intelligence warnings, and then they terror-bomb you. The Chechens deserve to be fumigated. As an aside, what's wrong with your media? They seem like "useful idiots"--to borrow Lenin's phrase--for the terrorists. That Rolling Stone cover? Really? That would never happen in Russia.

In addition, there are another billion or more Muslims to the south of Russia--and a lot of them are trouble, too. Indeed, Russia has been fighting Muslims all across Central Asia for centuries. It’s not easy.

But the American leaders don’t seem to understand any of this. They are lost in their silly theories about liberation, human rights--all that nonsense. They don’t see that the struggle with radical Islam is a war, pure and simple. It’s a war that should unite all the civilized countries of the world. I didn’t say “democratic,” I said “civilized.”

One Western journalist who at least begins to understand where I’m coming from is The New York Times’ Steven Lee Myers. In his report of August 28, Myers accurately describes the Putin view of what’s been going on in the Middle East:

“In his view, the United States and its partners have unleashed the forces of extremism in country after country in the Middle East by forcing or advocating change in leadership — from Iraq to Libya, Egypt to Syria.”

That’s right. Over the last 15 years, from Clinton to Bush 43 to Obama, America has stirred up all the hornet-nests in the Middle East. For the most part, those angry hornets are far away from the US, but those insects are on Russia’s southern border--starting with those lousy Chechens.

And it’s not just the Americans stirring things up; it’s flunky-countries, too. It still kills me to think back to what British Prime Minister Tony Blair said just a few weeks after 9-11. In a speech that made the Americans swoon, Blair chose to regard all the coming wars as a great opportunity for international do-gooding.

After talking up the importance of “freedom,” Blair cited all needy peoples of the Muslim world and declared, “They, too, are our cause.” What kind of bull is that? Radical Muslims kill you, and so you want to go help them? Put them on welfare? America put its blacks on welfare, and were they grateful? Did they become less violent? Yet in Blair’s mind, these same Muslims were supposed to be grateful for all this “help.” That was the theory.

Then Blair concluded with these lines:

“This is a moment to seize. The kaleidoscope has been shaken. The pieces are in flux. Soon they will settle again. Before they do, let us re-order this world around us.”

And of course, that’s what Blair and Bush did--they reordered the Muslim world. But not in a good way. They made it much worse!

Look, I’m a conservative. I have my imperial ambitions, to be sure, but the last thing I want to do is send all the pieces of the world-kaleidoscope fluxing around. We’ve had enough gratuitous messing things up in our own history, whether by Ivan the Terrible or Comrade Stalin. I want order--Russian Orthodox order.

So I’ve been predicting, all along, that the Bush-Blair crusade wouldn’t work--and I’ve been right, all along. A Reuters reporter quoted me as saying on September 1:


“We need to remember what's happened in the last decade, the number of times the United States has initiated armed conflicts in various parts of the world. Has it solved a single problem?”

And the answer, of course, is “no.” The US made things worse. Today, look at Syria.

Indeed, by my count, the US has led six major interventions in the Muslim Asia and Africa over the last 30 years: Reagan in Lebanon, Bush 41 and Clinton in Somalia, Bush 43 in Afghanistan and Iraq, and Obama in Libya and Egypt. None of them have worked out well. And so now, Syria!

Needless to say, I’m happy to see the Americans make fools of themselves once again. Anything that weakens Uncle Sam helps Mother Russia.

Yet even so, after all this, I could be persuaded to make a deal with Obama on Syria. Other US presidents have done just that; they have gone over the heads of the crummy little countries they were fighting in some benighted corner of the world, and reached a war-ending agreement with us Russians.

That’s what Nixon did with Brezhnev in May 1972, as Vietnam was still raging. He said, in effect, I need to get out of this stupid war, but I must look tough so I get re-elected. So you Russians, pretty please, look the other way while I bomb the crap out of the North Vietnamese. So the US can stand tall on its way out of Vietnam, secure a “decent interval,” and not obviously lose our honor. And then we’ll owe you one.

Brezhnev went along, Nixon bombed and then got out, and the result was “detente,” a notable warming of US-Soviet relations in the 1970s.

So that’s the kind of deal that Obama could make with me today on Syria. Coincidentally, he’s coming this week to St. Petersburg for the G-20 Summit; we could easily peel off some time and figure out how to solve the Syria question.

Yet once again, Obama would have to give me something in return. What would it be? A free rein in Chechyna? A blind eye toward the incremental reclaiming of lost Soviet territories, back into the Russian Motherland? Or just a simple bribe? Who knows. I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it.

But that rendezvous at the bridge almost certainly won’t happen, because Obama doesn’t seem to think he needs me for anything.

Indeed, he is going out of his way to stick his finger in my eye: Just on Monday, we learned that the President is going to be meeting with “gay” groups while in Russia, as a not-so-subtle statement against recent Russia’s anti-homosexuality crackdown. He is meeting with my enemies! Right in my own country! I don’t do that to him. I don’t come to America to meet with, say, the National Rifle Association.

Yes, Obama would rather cultivate the worldwide “gay” constituency than work with me to solve Syria. The Americans still think they can have it all: They think they can clobber Assad in Damascus, snub me here in Russia, and pander to their liberal sexual constituencies.

In other words, they get everything, and we get nothing. The Americans have had it so good for so long that it just doesn’t occur to them that they might have to make some tradeoffs.

We Russians know about tradeoffs. Back during the Great Patriotic War, in ’42, the Nazis were besieging both Leningrad and Stalingrad. The Red Army had to manage its resources: Do we seek to relieve Leningrad in the north and keep a million people from starving, or do we relieve Stalingrad in the south and keep the Hitlerites from capturing our oil resources? We did the latter, of course, and not only did we save the Hero City of Stalingrad, but we wiped out the entire German Sixth Army.

So yes, it was a tough tradeoff, the kind you have to make when you need to win. Hundreds of thousands in Leningrad died--including my uncle--but the tide of the war was shifted, and the USSR was saved.

Today, of course, I will make it my business to see to it that Obama gets none of what he wants. I will help Assad, I will subdue the homosexuals here in Russia, and I will be still be in power when Obama is laughed off the world stage.

Yet while I will savor the prospect of humiliating Obama, I still lament the lost opportunity--the lost opportunity to focus on the real enemy, which is Islamic radicalism. We can deal with Saudi Arabia, that’s for sure--but even they have trouble with the crazies. They would be glad to have our help. But we should do it together, so that one party doesn’t come to dominate.

The Americans, the Europeans, the Israelis, the Christian Africans, the Chinese, and the Indians all have something in common with us: The jihadis are our collective enemy. From Nigeria to Libya, from Syria to Chechnya, we see terrorism and strife.

That’s the bad news. The good news is that we can manage this problem--again, if we work together. Let’s look at the globe. The truth is that we have Islam surrounded: east, west, south and north. So we, the civilized people, should make a deal.

For starters, let Russia reoccupy the Central Asian states--the five “Stans”--that broke away during Russia’s most recent time of troubles, in the early 90s.

In return, I will turn Assad over to his fate, and so will the Chinese. Why? Because the Chinese are cursed with 50 million or so Muslims in their westernmost province, Xinjiang, which is right next to Russia. So as part of the same deal, the Chinese get to suppress--I guess that’s the nice way of putting it--their restive Muslims.

Wait, there’s more. Under this new deal, the Israelis can do what they want with the Palestinians. My fellow ex-Soviet citizen, Avigdor Lieberman, the former foreign minister of Israel--he gets this. And he’s still close to Bibi.

And together, we can all deal with those two most troublesome nations: Iran and Pakistan.

Iran is a lot closer to Russia than it is to America--I don’t want those nuts to have nuclear weapons! But I have defended Iran to keep the Americans from filling the space instead. I’d rather have the ayatollahs in Tehran than a hostile US Army, bent on still more “liberation.”

As for Pakistan, the Americans are only beginning to figure out how badly they have been played by those guys. All along, the Pakistanis have using all their US foreign-aid money to boost the Taliban.

Those Americans--they thought they were so cool for helping to push the Red Army out of Afghanistan in the 80s. And look what they got after that--Osama Bin Laden in his new home.

Now, 25 years later, the Americans are finally giving up on their missionary work in Afghanistan. If we ever have to go back to bring order there, it will be no more Mr. Nice Guy! But Pakistan is the real problem--they make Afghanistan possible.

So those are the real evil empires: Iran and Pakistan. Bringing them to heel won’t be easy, of course, but we Russians have never shied away from strong measures. The Americans could learn a lot from us.

So that’s my vision. Let’s stop worrying about silly little niceties about the right and the wrong way to fight a war. Let’s stop trying to bring democracy to barbarians. Instead, let’s bring them the only thing they understand--force.

Let’s all of us--Moscow, Washington, London, Paris, Brussels, Jerusalem, Lagos, Addis Ababa, Beijing, New Delhi--come together in a new Holy Alliance, similar to that which kept Europe safe from radicalism in the early 19th century. Let’s join one another to crush the unholy, unruly, jihadi Muslims. The good Muslims will thank us for it. And if they don’t--too bad.

Admit it: You, too, think it’s a good idea.
m***@yahoo.com
2013-09-13 07:31:23 UTC
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babyshoes: Putin did bring up good points..but as far as carrying out this current task of doing something about WMD'S in Syria he already made clear how he feels about them.
I think he gave a nice shout out to his bro hassad, "still got your back"

"""I would love to gas the Chechens--all 1.2 million of them. They are like cockroaches, murderous Muslim cockroaches, and if the Chechens had doneh to Americans what they have done to Russians, maybe the US public would want to join with us. Oh wait, they have: The Boston Bombers, those Tsarnaev brothers, were Chechens. You took them in--against our advice. You put them on welfare for a decade, ignored our intelligence warnings, and then they terror-bomb you. The Chechens deserve to be fumigated. As an aside, what's wrong with your media? They seem like "useful idiots"--to borrow Lenin's phrase--for the terrorists. That Rolling Stone cover? Really? That would never happen in Russia.

In addition, there are another billion or more Muslims to the south of Russia--and a lot of them are trouble, too. Indeed, Russia has been fighting Muslims all across Central Asia for centuries. It’s not easy.""""

Our media " useful idiots"
Quoting Lenion....

What's wrong with your media?

Yes their a bit queer..
s***@gmail.com
2013-09-13 10:21:06 UTC
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glad to hear from ya rp. i was concerned about you
H8n S8n
2015-09-04 03:54:28 UTC
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(post from 9/10/13)

I have posted here before:
I am looking for Feast of Trumpets 2015

Question:
What did the boy say at the Bar Mitzvah?

Answer:
It won't be long now. . . ..

I'm H8n S8n !


Update: September 3, 2015

1st shoe should drop - last 7 - 10 days this month
2nd shoe should drop around middle of October, 2015


You guys & No PMS been hearing about the "Shemta" ?

The Vicar of Christ on earth said this week he is now
forgiving the sin of abortion. WTF?

My 26 Translations (I got FREE from ***@bookstore)
says only God & Christ can forgive sin.

The can only mean the Jesuit-pope is Christ
***if the Pope is infallible

H. S8n
Celestia S
2015-09-05 00:27:36 UTC
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Post by H8n S8n
(post from 9/10/13)
I am looking for Feast of Trumpets 2015
What did the boy say at the Bar Mitzvah?
It won't be long now. . . ..
I'm H8n S8n !
Update: September 3, 2015
1st shoe should drop - last 7 - 10 days this month
2nd shoe should drop around middle of October, 2015
You guys & No PMS been hearing about the "Shemta" ?
The Vicar of Christ on earth said this week he is now
forgiving the sin of abortion. WTF?
says only God & Christ can forgive sin.
The can only mean the Jesuit-pope is Christ
***if the Pope is infallible
H. S8n
What exactly are the shoes you expect to see dropping?
geraldkrug
2015-09-05 21:31:14 UTC
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Refugee problems mounting.
Celestia S
2015-09-06 22:42:50 UTC
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Post by geraldkrug
Refugee problems mounting.
Speaking of refugees, I just noticed something. H8n, you've always said you were sleeping in your car, right? Well what were you doing with a car? Why didn't you sell your car and give the money to God? Holdin back huh?
Celestia S
2015-09-06 22:52:09 UTC
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Post by Celestia S
Post by geraldkrug
Refugee problems mounting.
Speaking of refugees, I just noticed something. H8n, you've always said you were sleeping in your car, right? Well what were you doing with a car? Why didn't you sell your car and give the money to God? Holdin back huh?
Hey I just had a creepy thought. What if the upper floors of the Cathedral had been used to house the faithful rent free? They could have worked at their jobs and given EVEN MORE. Imagine what the atmosphere would have been in a place like that.
geraldkrug
2015-09-07 00:09:01 UTC
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The atmosphere of dry jizz

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